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Apr182013

Did The FBI Know In Advance About Boston Attack?

A must watch.  History suggests the FBI knew something.

Reality Check with Ben Swann

What did the FBI know and when did they know it?

Tonight we are learning more about the Boston Marathon bombing and yet there are still so many questions that have not been answered.  The biggest question of course, who is behind it?  Could it be that the FBI knows more about this attack than they are letting on?  Could they have known about the attack ahead of time?

This is a must read.

Here's the NYT article on the 1993 WTC bomb plot discussed in the clip...

 

 

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Here come a bunch of stories on FBI incompetence

http://dailybail.com/home/fbi-probes-congressmen-for-nudity-and-drinking-during-israel.html

FBI Probes Congressmen For Nudity And Drinking During Israel Trip But They Won't Investigate Goldman Sachs
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:23 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Meet Thomas Ryan

http://dailybail.com/home/meet-thomas-ryan-the-guy-who-snitched-on-occupy-wall-street.html

The Guy Who Snitched On Occupy Wall Street To The FBI And NYPD
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:24 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
NSA Whistleblower: 'Everyone Is Under Virtual Surveillance'

http://dailybail.com/home/nsa-whistleblower-everyone-is-under-virtual-surveillance.html
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:25 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
« No Surprise: FBI Broke Law For Years In Phone Searches »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/18/AR2010011803982_pf.html
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:28 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:29 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
How The FBI Worked With Wall Street Banks To Destroy Occupy

http://dailybail.com/home/you-wanted-proof-that-wall-street-owns-washington.html

I had forgotten about this completely.
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:42 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Judge Declares FBI's Warrantless Surveillance Unconstitutional

http://dailybail.com/home/nsl-ruled-unconstitutional-the-most-significant-court-victor.html

Last but not least, a huge victory over the FBI last month.
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:43 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
NYT article on the 1993 WTC bomb plot discussed by Ben Swann...

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/nyregion/tapes-depict-proposal-to-thwart-bomb-used-in-trade-center-blast.html

Shocking story.
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:46 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Man Arrested In Plot To Use 1,000-Lb Bomb To Blow Up The Federal Reserve

http://dailybail.com/home/man-arrested-in-plot-to-use-1000-lb-bomb-to-blow-up-the-fede.html

An undercover FBI agent posed as an al-Qaida facilitator, supplying him with 20 50-pound bags of what he thought were explosives to use in building his bomb. He also visited the Lower Manhattan site multiple times as he planned the attack, officials said.

The pattern repeats itself.
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterDailyBail
Apr 17, 2013 at 8:02 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
My wife and I were talking about the '93 bombing and the FBI just yesterday. Kudos to Ben Swann for being all over this angle of the story. We don't know that's what happened in Boston, but it would be foolish to rule it out. Especially considering the fact that no one has piped up to take claim for the attack.
Apr 17, 2013 at 9:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterDr. Pitchfork
When was the last "terror event" that didn't involve the FBI looking over the shoulder (as happened in '93) or acting in concert with "perps" doing their best to impersonate Clouseau? Underwear bombers, shoe bombers, bridge bombers, central bank bombers--the feds are there each and every time like a Spy vs. Spy comic book. Only those were 25 cents, whereas the apparatus underpinning the endless fake terrorism/war machine runs a cool trillion a year.

How anyone believes any of this nonsense after the NY Fed bombing is beyond me. THE BOMB WAS FAKE. For fuck's sake. What kind of terrorist uses FAKE bombs?

But look how the media treated that one. After acknowledging that the bomb was fake, Glenn Beck went on a pseudo-scientific tirade that emphasized the damage that a 1000-pound bomb could do: blow through 15 inches of metal [what kind of metal? there are over 100 just in the periodic table, fucking moron] from a a half-mile away, etc.

And people lap that shit up EVERY TIME, even when it's FAKE. That's how dumb Americans have become watching TV. They'll swap real casualties to get cartoon enemies.

Maybe Boston will be a wake-up call (if the preposterous Sandy Hook story didn't do the job already). New England used to be good for that sort of thing.
Apr 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM | Registered CommenterCheyenne
Cheyenne, are you still saying that Boston was "fake" (i.e., not real bombs and casualties)?

Further, what's your thumbnail take on Sandy Hook? I haven't been following (for lack of a better word) the conspiracy literature on this.
Apr 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterDr. Pitchfork
It was very fucking real.
Apr 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn
It was real alright. The question is who is involved. The Feds always seem to be a step behind in this stuff or worse a culprit of sorts.
Apr 17, 2013 at 12:52 PM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect: ID'd By 4Chan Think Tank?

http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA

Check this out
Apr 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Boston Bombing Suspect Arrested

http://beforeitsnews.com/terrorism/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-arrested-2445692.html

How did they find him so quickly? Identifying him in photos is one thing, but knowing his name and where he lives to arrest him - How the hell did that happen so quickly?

Was it some kind of secret facial recognition software that utilizes social networks?

Or was it someone that the FBI already knew about?
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:13 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Obama’s Friend Bill Ayers Used Shrapnel Explosives to Bomb Buildings in the 70′s

http://intellihub.com/2013/04/17/obamas-friend-bill-ayers-used-shrapnel-explosives-to-bomb-buildings-in-the-70s/

Good point.
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:27 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Check out this photo

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/bostonsusectrunning.gif

Supposedly of the suspect running from the explosion.
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:37 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Hmm. Clearly there are others involved. Wonder if they will arrest them or hold out for the lone ranger aspect.
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
Blew his pants off. Dick.
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
CNN backs off statement saying suspect has been arrested.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Boston_Marathon_Explosion
Apr 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Apr 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
“According to my sources, the man can be seen placing the backpack on the ground and he is on a cell phone call at the time,” Orr said. “While he’s on the phone, I’m told, an explosion takes place at the finish line of the race course. As soon as that blast went off, this man then, according to my sources, can be seen leaving that area and kind of just mingling in the crowd.”

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/04/17/authorities-appeals-for-help-solving-boston-marathon-bombings/
Apr 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Who are these two guys? They look like military or police. Israeli? Are those desert combat boots or Timberland? Weird.

http://i.imgur.com/jCgAf8Y.jpg
Apr 17, 2013 at 4:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterDr. Pitchfork
Dr. P. That is a good site obviously. Curiously there is a shot of a guy in the breezeway of an establishment while kneeling down. Smoke around and such. Interesting shot to be sure.
Apr 17, 2013 at 4:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
Yep, saw that one, Skinflint. And that was after the blast(?). I don't generally go for conspiracy stuff -- I'm open-minded, but I don't usually go Alex Jones without evidence. But those two guys being there, plus all the sniffer dogs, etc. Sure, maybe it was just (yet another) coincidental training exercise going on, but I suspect at the very least there was some kind of prior warning. Maybe, as speculated earlier, this was a sting op gone wrong -- just like in 1993. Who knows?
Apr 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterDr. Pitchfork
I'm with you on this one Pitch.
Apr 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM | Unregistered Commenterjohn
Yeah, I had to stop with the AJ stuff. Got to twisted for me. I think Reuters had a shot of a sniper on the roof there somewhere along the route. Plus all the dogs and such. If they detonated with black powder, should not the dogs have sniffed them out? Sure seems like it. Can't sue the feds though, at least that is what I think. If we are spending billions on this stuff, it just seems to be a waste of money. Plenty of cameras though. I think Mr. King is wrong on that one.
Apr 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
P.S. Look for the blurb in imgur piece. Interesting.
Apr 17, 2013 at 5:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
Dr. P--

The central problem in all these violent episodes is that the media in not only abjectly incompetent in reporting basic facts, but patently complicit in propagating absurd lies that it is fed from so-called law enforcers. Let's start with Sandy Hook, since that episode is largely behind us (though the pile of misinformation continues to grow).

We are told that Adam Lanza, a 20 year-old with Asperger's, shot his mother in the head multiple times that morning as she slept, then took her car to Sandy Hook Elementary School. There, according to the media, he open fire with a semiautomatic rifle, killing 20 students who were 6-7 years old and 6 educators, wounding 1 in the process.

There is no evidence whatsover, direct or indirect, that Lanza was there that day. Nor is there any direct evidence that he ever fired a weapon, and the indirect evidence on that score is fatally deficient. The way the Newtown story unfolded tells us a lot more about the media than it does about Adam Lanza.

Initially, of course, the shooter was Ryan Lanza, and the dead parent was his father Peter Lanza, whom the media reported was murdered in Hoboken. That story was false. The media never explained how it got such basic information wrong.

Next we heard that it was really Adam Lanza, who came to the school, where his mom Nancy taught, to kill her in a rampage. Taht story was false as well. Instead of explaining where it "learned" that Nancy Lanza was a teacher at SH Elem., Pete Williams (the NBC shill who constantly touts his many contacts in the Justice Department) advanced the outright lie: that Adam Lanza came to the school the day before the shooting and got into an altercation with 4 educators (3 of whom he shot the next day and 1 of whom was absent). That lie too was directly repudiated by Police Lt. Paul Vance.

Next up, and in yet another falsified attempt to link Lanza with the shooting, we had Andrea McCarren telling us that the school nurse "locked eyes" with the shooter. That false bit of hearsay was repudiated by the nurse herself, who told George Stefanopolous that she only saw the shooter's feet.

Throughout the all-out campaign to pin all of the crimes on Lanza, despite having ZERO evidence, the media failed to explain the rash of other suspects: two men in handcuffs (one put in the front seat of a police car; one on the ground at the fire station), the many men (was it 4 or 5 spotted from the helicopter?) sprinting away from the school into the woods, or the 2 suspects leaving the scene in a purple van (one of whom was apparently dressed as a nun). All of these men--unlike Adam Lanza--were indisputably present at the scene of the crime. What were they doing there? We'll never know because it's not the media's job to report the truth; its job is to pin the crimes on Adam Lanza.

That should've been easy to do: the school had a new video security system. And yet law enforcers, who fed the media with non-stop misinformation about the Lanzas, can't find a single still frame of Lanza at the school at all? Got it: he wasn't there.

That's a mere sample, by the way, of the blatant media lies about Sandy Hook. There are hundreds if not thousands of others. Notice that I don't even need to address the credibility (or lack thereof) of the many camera-happy adults in Newtown. I'm simply talking about confirmed falsehoods reported by the media as fact.

One other thing before I turn to Boston: in the police scanner feed, an officer finds 18 dead bodies in a closet in a kitchen; the media never reported this fact. The media said the bodies were in classrooms. Nor did the media report that there was a law enforcement drill at a nearby school at the same time the shootings occurred. You know what it did do though? Passed off footage from that drill as being from Sandy Hook.

All of this goes well beyond stupidity and ineptitude and firmly into the category of flat-out lying about crucial details.

Now we have the Boston Marathon bombing with 3 dead, and the media is once again ignoring critical evidence. Was, in fact, there an active drill taking place at the same time as the bombing, as the cross country coach said? And if the bomb was somewhere near a street or sidewalk, why is all the shattered glass at the Lenscrafters building on the OUTSIDE (i.e., on the sidewalk)?

It's early yet in this tragedy. I can tell you from watching Sandy Hook closely, though, that you have to be insane not to question EVERYTHING coming from the media that's not backed up by evidence. The media fabricates and alters "evidence" to fit whatever agenda it's advancing--which is most definitely NOT to report the truth. Some of the early photos and videos strain one's credulity, to say the least. The earliest days after something like this is when the most mischief along these lines happens. Just wait and watch. You'll see...
Apr 17, 2013 at 5:25 PM | Registered CommenterCheyenne
Apr 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
NEWTOWN — Contradictory to all of the reports, officials now say that 4 handguns were recovered from the school, and only handguns. No AR-15 “assault rifle” was used in the shootings as originally reported by media and police.

http://intellihub.com/2013/04/17/mainstream-media-new-information-no-assault-riffle-used-in-sandy-hook-school-shooting/

This is newly published today but I don't have time to track down the source to see if it is actually anything new.
Apr 17, 2013 at 6:10 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
All scheduled news conferences have been cancelled by the FBI this evening.
Apr 17, 2013 at 7:37 PM | Unregistered Commenterjohn
DB--

That newly published report is actually based on a story by NBC's crown prince of disinformation, Pete Williams. Here is the video cited by the "new" story:

http://www.today.com/video/today/50208495#50208495

At 0:20, Williams states: "There is some new information this morning from a couple of federal officials and state officials. They say now that... [1:25] finally, and this may be the most telling piece of informatiion, on the 13th of December, and we've been told this by a couple of officials, there was some kind of altercation. He went to the school, got in an argument with 4 staff members."

Turns out Pete Williams was either lying or playing the stooge, as that story was refuted both implicitly by the police scanner from the 13th (describing a guy with blond hair [not Lanza] at "the school") and explicitly by Police Lt. Vance (who said they'd investigated Pete Williams' story and stated that it didn't check out):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZLb9rgqe2w (police audio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXjk5JxVBhw (Lt. Vance)

Everything out of Pete Williams' mouth about Sandy Hook is a lie just like this one. However, he is by no means unique among mainstream media reporters, either generally or with respect to that episode specifically. The media's only function is propaganda.
Apr 17, 2013 at 9:01 PM | Registered CommenterCheyenne
The police audio recording of that day, coupled with the news chopper footage running, I believe concurrently, is pretty damnable. The interviews with the locals who flat out state that they witnessed the arrest of two suspects just kind of seals the deal for me. Yea, the one officer states that he did find bodies in the reefer during the search of the premises. WTH?
Apr 17, 2013 at 9:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
FBI's History of Handing "Terror Suspects" Live Explosives

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2013/04/fbis-history-of-handing-terror-suspects.html

New story. A great read.
Apr 17, 2013 at 9:40 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Excellent piece by Greenwald. I might add that the suggestion postulated here was used today during the potus speech in regards the failure of the passage of the backround checks. Never says anything about the murder of children in other countries in the name of the good people of this country. Gads what a mess we are in. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/04/16-3
Apr 17, 2013 at 11:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
"The police audio recording of that day, coupled with the news chopper footage running, I believe concurrently, is pretty damnable."

They're not concurrent. The audio feed comes from radioreference.com and is time-stamped. The helicopter video feed is separate and is not time-stamped. From an approximate shadow analysis, you can tell the video was shot at around noon. See, e.g...

http://imageshack.us/a/img547/705/chase2.jpg

"The interviews with the locals who flat out state that they witnessed the arrest of two suspects just kind of seals the deal for me."

Yeah, and that's in addition to the audio feed segment mentioning the purple van with two suspects--one dressed as a clergy member. What was so chilling about that to me was the credibility it gave to an earlier piece of evidence that I'd dismissed out of hand. Specifically, on the day of the shooting, a guy called in to the Alex Jones show and said he was from Newtown. He said there were rumors going around the area that a group of men disguised as nuns had perpetrated the mass shooting (in which a record-smashing 26:1 kil:wound ratio was amassed). At the time I thought that was crazy. Then I heard the police scanner feed.

"Yea, the one officer states that he did find bodies in the reefer during the search of the premises. WTH?"

The most reasonable inference, in view of the foregoing, is that the mass murder of children at Sandy Hook was carried out by a team of professional killers. The Adam Lanza/lone gunman narrative, aside from being utterly baseless and ludicrous to boot, is an evil lie being pushed like hell by MSM. The question is why.
Apr 18, 2013 at 12:14 AM | Registered CommenterCheyenne
Well, well, well, what do we have here? Why, it's CCTV video footage of a possible suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing:

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/-Lord-Taylor-video-leads-to-identification-of-Boston-Marathon-bombing-suspect/-/11971628/19778450/-/idadl6/-/index.html ("The department store video 'has confirmed that a suspect is seen dropping a bag near the point of the second explosion and heading off,' Murphy said.)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/17/boston-bombings-investigation-cctv ("'The camera from Lord & Taylor is the best source of video so far,' Dot Joyce, a spokeswoman for Menino, told the Boston Globe.")

Query why no such CCTV video footage ever emerged showing the killer in Newtwon despite Sandy Hook Elementary's brand new video security system? Such footage emerged in mere days after the Columbine killings...
Apr 18, 2013 at 12:45 AM | Registered CommenterCheyenne
Cheyenne, are you sure they had a video camera system in Sandy Hook? I'm just saying that the phrase "visual monitoring system" may be bureaucrat speak for "we'll watch who comes in and out of the school." Cameras? Has it actually been confirmed by anyone that there were cameras at Sandy Hook?
Apr 18, 2013 at 1:13 AM | Unregistered CommenterDr. Pitchfork
I thought the video of the guys running through the woods was running as radio reports were coming in. Mistaken obviously. The camera angle of the story? All I can say Dr. P is here in Maryland, at least where I live, there are cameras on every corner both inside and out. There really are no blind spots. In other counties where my kids participate in sports activities, there are cameras there as well. Don't know about other states. Maybe others here can offer up their observations.
Apr 18, 2013 at 6:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterSKINFLINT
"are you sure they had a video camera system in Sandy Hook?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBT6t3-CAmw

Brand spanking new... "the gold standard in safety."
Apr 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM | Registered CommenterCheyenne
Thanks for that, Cheyenne. Has anyone officially denied there being cameras? What have officials said about the absence of footage or photos of Lanza? Lemme guess -- not a single reporter has asked, right? Has an FOIA request been filed? Even a group of activists could press the issue until there were either photos produced or denials/refusals issued. That would at least narrow down what's going on.
Apr 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterDr. Pitchfork

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