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Thursday
Sep102009

Watch Geithner Testify Live @ 1 PM (Congressional Oversight Panel)

Turbo has been called before Dr. Warren beginning at 1 pm est Thursday.  Live streaming coverage will be available on the COP website.  This one could get contentious.  Elizabeth is tired of being ignored.

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Sep 10, 2009 at 7:30 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Ken.

I deleted your post because your messages are becoming more and more like SPAM.

Engage in discussion with us...it hurts everyone when you just pile on with long spammy comments...and I honestly don't think they get read by many people because of their length...

The place for SPAM is yahoo...we attempt at least to have intelligent discussion on these forums...we don't always succeed but we try...

Be more a part of it...I know you have it in you...
Sep 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Is anyone else watching this Geithner testimony...pretty interesting stuff...
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Warren just asked the auto bondholder vs. AIG CDS counterparties question and it's gettin' snippy. Turbo says "You've had your whole life to study this and think it through so you know more about this than anybody.." But it wasn't a compliment. Fun to watch him squirm. Still infuriating that he won't answer the fucking question. Oh, now he just said (or did he) that they didn't have to pay Goldman Sachs 100cents on the dollar for their CDS from AIG.

Where's Drinking With Bob? I hope he's watching this.
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
Nice, Warren just interrupted his final bloviations. Real snippy like. Me think I like it.
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
DB YOU SAID >>>>Is anyone else watching this Geithner testimony...pretty interesting stuff...<<<

anyone watching? LOL this is the event of the day. no one really likes stupid Geithner and he must be replaced asap. Same goes for Obozo.
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterSell Short
BTW, Geithner is a horrible presenter. he is horrible all around.

FIRE his ass already!
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterSell Short
Now it's Henserling's turn. He's going down the UAW vs. bondholders route. Maybe a dead end legally, but it might rile up the troops. Good stuff. He's got all the right ideas -- why the hell would you buy a bond when the UAW is going to get preferential treatment? Unfortunately, Henserling doesn't know how to pare his questions down so that Geithner can't squirm out of them.
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
Geithner and Paulson should be both prosecuted for ruining this country.
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterSell Short
If Geithner says "judge" or "judgement" one more time, I'm going to pop a vein. "Ummm, yess, there are laws, and you losers have had all day to think about these things, but we super-bureaucrats had to work in the heat of the moment and we had to make ;lkjaew;dsfadsl;fjsdlkjfsdlkfj

HE SAID IT AGAIN!!!! except this time it was a "a set of judgements"! (that's my fists pounding the keyboard^)

Doesn't Geithner know his judgement stinks? No, I suspect he doesn't.
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
James,

You said >>>If Geithner says "judge" or "judgement" one more time, I'm going to pop a vein. <<<

lol. he is indeed very annoying to watch.
Sep 10, 2009 at 2:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterSell Short
I went to get lunch....missed the Geithner statement on Goldman Sachs counterparty claims paid at par...damnit...what did he say if you remember...
Sep 10, 2009 at 3:05 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
EW: "Thank you for your... ..... very .... detailed questions." Forthright, honest, informative..? Nope. Just detailed.
Sep 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
Yeah...Hensarling wants to know why TARP money went to the automakers and Geithner's response is that "it's a decision we made...we have no specific reason except the autos needed help...the auto states are important to the prez, so we helped...

Geithner is like Goolsbee...way too political to be trusted...
Sep 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Geithner can talk a country mile and never say a damn thing....but his hands are so expressive...
Sep 10, 2009 at 3:08 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
And now it's over....Geithner can go back to the office, stare at his secret photos of Jamie Dimon and get ready for tonight's CNBC onslaught...

I'm going to be at dinner later during the CNBC broadcast so I will be TIVOing the program for any signs of intelligent life from CNBC producers and anchors...Liesman and Burnett...
Sep 10, 2009 at 3:09 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Where's Drinking With Bob? I hope he's watching this.


There will be more from Bob later this evening...the guy has made so many videos it's difficult to sift through them all...
Sep 10, 2009 at 3:17 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
On AIG CDS payments, there was a lot of snippy back-and-forth, but I believe I heard him say, (first) Yes we had no choice and then (second time) No of course we didn't have to pay in full, but we were brave bureacrats acting in the heat of the moment.... blah blah blah.

Ultimately, he swung around to the old standby --

We were working to save the financial system and bring stability to the system... and if Goldman et al. didn't get 100 cents on the dollar, well.... it would have hurt Main St. enormously, blah blah blah it was very complex, blah blah blah And we had to make a .... (wait for it)... judgement. So piss off...

That's how I remember it.

But just before that EW asked whether Treasury and the Fed were in contact with the AIG counterparties before the taxpayer payout on the CDS. It got super duper snippy at that point "In contact about what?" "What are you getting at?" "I was at the Fed, you know, not at Treasury.." I think he even resorted to using the word "premise" -- but he couldn't find a nail to hang it on. Warren nailed him, but he just kept squirming. Next time, try using two or three nails, Ms. Warren.
Sep 10, 2009 at 4:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
Here ya go, DB. This be the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz7ruJw6byQ
Sep 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
EW: "Are you saying that you couldn't find a way to pay less than 100 cents on the dollar [with the banks], but since you could find a way with the auto industry you did [pay less than 100 cents on the dollar]?"

[cross-talk]

TG: "Of course not, I mean we woulda done that in a second if we coulda done that..."

*********************************

That's an exact transcription, but I can't tell if Timmy said No, it's not the case that we couldn't figure out how to pay less than 100 cents on the dollar, or if he said Yes, we couldn't figure out how to do anything but give Goldman and UBS and SocGen 100 cents on the dollar.

So which is it Timmy, are you a dumbass who's never heard of negotiating, or did you just make a "judgement" to sidestep congress and give away loads of taxpayer money for free? Well, which is it punk?
Sep 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
nice find from youtube...it's going up later...

Why can't we get this guy to answer the question about AIG counterparty payments...

Still hoping that CNBC will come through and include some of our questions...
Sep 10, 2009 at 4:52 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Off topic<<

DB..nice rebound in natural gas. Bottom was at $2.50 and it has rallied all the way to $3.26 per mmbtu in the past two trading days. UNG went from $9 to $11.25. FWIW!
Sep 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterSell Short
Make $$$$ :) money and watch our country go bk :( !
Sep 10, 2009 at 5:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterSell Short
My hand is "expressing" that I am Timmmaayyyy's #1 Fan. (Hint-I am holding my middle finger HIGH and aimed directly at HIM)
Sep 10, 2009 at 5:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterAin't Bullshittin'
EW to TG: "Thank you for your... ..... very .... detailed answers." Forthright, honest, informative..? Nope. Just detailed.


I wrote "deatailed questions" before, but I meant "answers."
Sep 10, 2009 at 6:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
CNBC has video of the "Banking on Geithner" town hall.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1249587038&play=1
Sep 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
I'm watching this now -- Geithner looks pretty rattled. (Thanks, Elizabeth Warren!) I'm not sure if it's real or not, but he cut off Erin Burnett on her first question and he made some smart remark to Liesman on his first question. Really, really awkward. Looks like the public scrutiny is getting to him. He might crack, but he'll never see the light.
Sep 10, 2009 at 9:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
James H

O'dear, we are fucked and are perma debt slaves and our rants die right here, where we spin our brains.

No leader has grown balls to lead the masses for revolt?lol

All screaming on the web, urgency is now to join the march in Washington DC or your own state capitals.

Banker thugs enjoy the new loot reward for their crimes and we the people strangled to die under debt burden for generations to come.

I will leave with this:

Fellow Americans:


((wake me up when revolution leadership emerges ...........................)))
Sep 10, 2009 at 9:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterKen
Burnett: "Will taxes go up?"
Geithner: "I ahh uh wuh I-I-I wan I wann do it less lemme do it this way... I wanna do this carefully" [everyone laughs. except Geithner]
Burnett: "As long as you answer the question, you can do it any way you like!" [if this were field hockey, she just threw a body check]
Geithner: [I'm paraphrasing] blah blah blah blah blah blah "we're gonna bring those deicits down...and it's gonna require we do difficult things..."
Liesman: [fearfully] "Sounded a little bit like a yes to me."
Geithner: "Nope. Uhh, want me to repeat exactly what I just said?" [painfully awkward. he might crack]
Sep 10, 2009 at 9:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
Ken, I feel your pain, but financial bloggers and internet junkies can't do it on their own, with or without leadership. There are still a great many people out there who do not know that Obama supported and continues to support the bailouts. They still believe the stories they've learned to believe and it's incredible to some people that Americans don't trust or support Obama -- how else explain the widespread and bizarre charges of racism levelled at his critics? Dylan Ratigan might help in spreading the word, but Wall St bonuses and another market crash might wake people up, too. When is unemployment going to start falling? Not for a long while, I suspect -- that could be a factor, too.

In any case, I don't know tht we need a whole lot of leadership, anyway. Who's leading you? Who's leading me? No one. Health care isn't over yet, either. "You lie!" is already a bumper sticker. As I see it, things are just getting started -- both economically and politically. I suspect, too, that there will be more bank bailouts soon (or FASB fraud will make the system even more vulnerable than it already is). Don't give up hope just yet.
Sep 10, 2009 at 10:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H

Reverse Bank Robbery - No Wonder America's Banks Are Making Profits Again: The US Government Is Bribing Them To Borrow Its Own Money - By Dean Baker (9/9/09)

Dean Baker
Wednesday, 09 September 2009 07:58

Guardian UK

Most of us work for a living, the rest are bankers. These days the news is filled with great tales about how America's banks are coming back.

Even that giant corpse Citigroup is showing signs of life. Its stock is now selling for more than five times the lows it hit earlier this year. Its market capitalization is up near $57bn, a bit more than the $45 billion that the government lent them through the Troubled Assets Relief Programme, or Tarp. Some are even expecting that the government will make a profit on its Citigroup investment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/aug/31/banking-profits-us-economy
Sep 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM | Unregistered CommenterKen

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