Tuesday
Sep182012
VIDEO: Marine Vet At Occupy Wall Street Tells Sean Hannity To "F*CK OFF" For Saying Protesters 'Hate Liberty'
Start watching at the 1-minute mark for the Hannity blast.
Fox News Sean Hannity called the Occupy Wall Street protesters un-American, saying they "hated liberty." The marines in this clip have a response for Hannity:
- "That's the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. Everyone here loves this country and wants to see it grow and wants to see it better. They love the people, they love their community, their neighbors. There hasn’t been racism here or bigotry. We get along as one big family, and that’s what we want for the rest of the country. All the people who are suffering in debt, who can’t speak for themselves, who are too afraid to voice their opinion, we’re here fighting for their rights. "
- “These wars that are going on, I don’t believe in them. I want my brothers and sisters to come back home. The bailout was a farce. It robbed American people.”
- “When they have these protests, violent protests overseas, we call ‘em democratic. The people are trying to get theirs. But as soon as we start doing ‘em here, they call us unpatriotic. So that’s, uh, very ironic that he would say something like that.”
Sep 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Reader Comments (24)
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Semper Fi.
Your tome rings hollow and you sound genuinely insincere to me.
What the Marine vet meant by "forced to take loans" is that the GI Bill didn't cover his tuition and he couldn't afford to pay for it out of savings or, presumably, a part-time job. And everyone knows if you want to get a good job you have to go to college. It may not be true, college may not get you anywhere, but that's what people are told, right? "You have to go to college." Now, explain why it is that college tuition is over 50K a year at top universities, while in the early 1980's you could work part-time at a pizza joint and afford tuition at most schools. Between govt. subsidies, govt.-backed student loans and changes to the bankruptcy laws in this country, colleges and universities (esp. administrators) got on the student-debt gravy train. So did the banks. And so did the for-profit colleges. A whole system of leverage was built on the idea that students could (and would) take on more and more debt. And since they changed the BK laws, those loans can no longer be discharged in a bankruptcy.
The Marine in this video didn't invent this system, and he sure as hell didn't profit from it. But some people and institutions have made out very well. The way you describe the scenario is a fairy tale. Is he somewhat to blame for his situation? Sure, but that's not even half the story. By the way, recognizing the validity of what I've said in no way obligates you to be a mamby-pamby socialist. (I'm certainly not.) But it's that kind of thing that has people pissed off. Same deal with houses -- huge profits for some, based on massive amounts of leverage and then bailouts for the banks and their executives when it all goes bust. Meanwhile, ordinary people are stuck with houses worth half of what is owed on them. Again, they were stupid to buy, but they took their lumps when the system collapsed. Jamie Dimon and his pals made out like bandits all the way.
I'd guess this is the same bunch of air-heads who got foolishly into debt, college and/or real estate, and thought they were on the gravy-train during the 2000-2007 boom the Clinton/Bush Administrations/FED created and now they want a do-over. Life educates, but almost never provides do-overs and instead of feeling sorry for themselves they need to learn from their painful experience and help run the Bush/Obama fascist scum out of power and never do business with the Banksters again. I do those things myself because I got hosed the same way 30 years ago and learned from the experience. Good things can be done; in 2010 we got rid of a three term Establishment Republican US Senator here where I live. It was great. We may get another one in 2012.
One other thing concerns me about these people. Look who is supporting them with money and encouragement. Obama? Soros? The Unions? How long before "W" shows up and sheds a few tears for them? Those are the really bad guys, right along with the crooks of Wall Street. If not why doesn't Obama prosecute the crooks in the banks, stop the bonuses and payoffs to them, stop the idiotic Bush Wars of Presidential Arrogance; maybe even get rid of the obvious crooks and scumbags in his own administration and his hoards of money raisers. Who knew "Green Jobs" meant ripping off the taxpayer's yet again?
No one's going to pay your bills. No one's going to give you your money or your house back and, yes, your degree is probalbly worthless. Life isn't fair! We believed a bunch of lies from a bunch of liars. So let's man up and get on with it and be smarter next time. Never trust the lying politicians or the lying business people, and they're all liars. If you can't get a job start some low level business that doesn't cost too much to start. When bad management wipped out my job I learned how to fix houses and in three years was making three times as much as any job I ever had. Please don't beg on the street. You're way too worthwhile to do that. Life has too much to offer for Americans to beg on the street.
As for Sean Hannity, leave that poor guy alone. Given his inate abilities he's doing better than anyone would expect.
Your tome rings hollow and you sound genuinely insincere to me. "
I never stated that wealth disparity does not exist. It does and should exist because some people are better at earning money and creating wealth than others. To punish those that have succeeded, and state that those who carry the 50% of the population that does not pay taxes are crony capitalist is absurd and an example of why you will never be wealthy. This rhetoric makes for great campaign speeches and T shirt slogans, but it is propaganda. What have I stated that is 'Genuinely insincere?" Or is that a trick question from the George Carlin archives?
Dr Pitchfork. When everyone was riding the credit bubble and getting away with their deeds it was acceptable. Now that the bubble has burst, many people were caught swimming naked when the tide went out. The Marine did not invent the system, he got caught up in the system that he exploited. As you suggest, college tuition is greater than $50K because the government thought everyone should go, qualified or not. That same mentality, we are all equal, is now marching with the Occupy Wall Street crowd. I worked through school, I took out loans, I paid the loans off over 10 years. Fairy tale? Nope. The reality is ordinary people are stuck with houses that are worth less because they were bad investors that thought they could get rich quick because "Everyone was doing it." It did not work and now they want to be bailed out. The fairy tale is believing that it is the responsibility of those that behaved prudently (yes, there are a few of us) to provide the bail out.
Mis Daisy. Thanks for admitting that you have a victim mentality. If you interpreted that my preaching self reliance and responsibility for one's actions is an example of victimization, you must be a Occupy Wall Street marcher.
Folks, I do not agree with the Wall Street and banks' bail out. I believe that the banks should have gone into receivership and their assets auctioned off the way the S&L crises was 20 years ago. The failures were not handled properly because Wall Street owns Washington, and Bush and Obama were pawns in this money game. The Occupy Wall Street Bunch has much to be concerned about. The Banks were given a pass. But to blame the wealthy as the cause of your pain is an example of 1960's hippie socialist mentality politics, orchestrated by union thugs, Van Jones, and other clueless dolts that have never created a business, never met a payroll, or created a job that was not government funded. Want proof? We have a president that never even had a paper route, let alone start a company. America has succeeded because we allowed the cream to rise to the top. Our decline accelerates because of this everyone should be equal mentality. The lack of dignity on display by those that join the Occupy Wall Street crowd is only exceeded by their ignorance.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo4NCXOX0p8
I think we're in violent agreement on most things here. However, that Marine is working full time to pay off his loans. I don't know the percentages, but not all or even most of the people appear to be agitating for a bailout paid for by others. The anger for most people stems from the fact that banks and bankers DID get a free pass (and trillions of dollars of subsidy and support from Treasury and the Fed). Most people I talk to can live with their mistakes, but are not content to see govt. bail out the well-heeled and well-connected who are already massively rich.
@ Tom Kane, Thirty years ago and maybe even a lot farther back, that cream at the very top started to sour, and today it's rotted putrefaction. You say Wall Street owns Washington, and your probably right. I believe the wealthiest people in this country along with a group ultra wealthy foreigners own Wall Street. And they give the directions that control the puppets in the U.S. Congress and Presidential Administration. The wealthy elite are destroying the middle class. They are so international today, they don't care if moving a manufacturing plant to India, Mexico, or China puts three thousand or ten thousand Americans out of work, as long as they can build their widget for one quarter the original labor cost and sell it for regular retail, more profit is all that matters.
Those people in the Occupy Wall Street Crowd are displaying true patriotism and standing up for the American Majority.
Of course, an Elite Apologist such as yourself , would find that to be an undignified action carried out by ignorant people. I think before this is all over you've got some major surprises headed your way. A lot of those people may be a hell of a lot smarter then you are.
"To punish those that have succeeded, and state that those who carry the 50% of the population that does not pay taxes are crony capitalist is absurd and an example of why you will never be wealthy."
Succeeded at what exactly? Please articulate how you define the state of our economy as a success. Who exactly are "those" who are carrying "50%" of the population? Where did you come up with this figure and how did "those" you refer to ambitiously earn the abilty to do all this carrying?
What leads you to believe, and gives you the right to "know" how I measure one's wealth and how do you validate your arrogantly assumed ability to measure mine? I take offense to your coy, unfounded conjecture and suspect the proliferation of OccupyX stems directly from sentiments such as what you wearily and shamelessly parrot here.
Your propaganda is showing. This doesn't have anything to do with T-shirts, great campaign speeches, trick questions, or George Carlin. As is anticipated, you'll have more curve balls to throw. The problem for the likes of you is; your message has been intemperateley rejected. That is a personal struggle only you can endeavor to reconcile, as well as your genuine insincerity. Good luck.
I understand your comments. But you miss the basic point of this clip. Hannity said the protesters hated liberty. These 2 guys fought for their country, and took offense. Enough said.
As for the value of the protests, if you don't see anything positive in hundreds of groups (all across the country) of ordinary people getting off their asses and hitting the streets to protest crony capitalism, the Fed, money in politics and bailouts, then we have a different view, to say the least. You're missing the bigger picture. It's about awakening the sheeple from their slumber, at the great rip-off in Washington and on Wall Street, and in corporations across America. I'm no socialist, nor do I support a victim mentality, but I do recognize something larger at work here. And I think it's a great first step toward fixing many of the issues that face us.
To quote a man who best taught the the impotance of the competative edge.
"Going into the fight i was aware we were fighting a better fighter. I knew I had a beaten fighter just before the last round. As he staggered back to the corner I looked behind me and saw a discouraging look on the faces of all my cornermen. It was then I told them to turn away and get the fuck out of here! I pulled the stool up and sat him down with an angry look on my face yelling YOUR BLOWING IT KID YOUR BLOWING THIS FIGHT! YOU NEED TO PULL YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AND WIN THIS NEXT ROUND. ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? AS I SLAPPED HIS FACE TO GET HIS ATTENTION.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES! RIGHT? THREE MINUTES AND YOUR THE NEXT CHAMPION! NEXT CHAMP RIGHT?!?!
Well it worked out. He went in the round a different fighter.
Burt Sugar asked him. "I always wondered why you did that to him?
"BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER SO MUCH AS SUGEST A NEGATIVE THOUGH TO ONE OF MY FIGHTERS....EVER, at any time. I do that, they might start to believe that shit!" Boxing Hall of Fame Trainer Angelo Dundee speaking of the first fight of Ray Leonard vs Thomas Herns.
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@ Tom Kane. I honestly don't see one posative point you make.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKFOaZP0MAA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You have been convinced by a corrupted education and political system that we are equal. We are not and there is no shame in that fact. With every ass kicking that I received, I learned as much as I learned from my successes. We have created a generation of excuse makers and we are dam good at it. It is obvious the efforts to convince the public that it is OK for you to categorize those of us that create the wealth are free game. Using the corrupt Wall Street occupants as an excuse to steal from the rest of us makes you no better than them. A thief is a thief. Your willingness to steal from and punish me makes you as guilty as those that have stolen from all of us. That is why we are headed for a slow steady decline as represented by the mindless comments offered herein.
You sound like a miserable person, and a miserable person to work for. Your self-martyrdom doesn't win you any trophies with me, to use your parlance. Just because you work hard (A) doesn't automatically mean you are doing good (it depends pretty heavily on what you do), and (B) doesn't mean employees, yours or not, don't also work hard. I've busted my ass in every job I've ever had. Maybe if you saw that, and didn't think of your employees as useless pieces of shit (which they surely know), you might actually get more out of them. People aren't exactly inspired by a petty despot with an axe to grind.
Recently Justice Roberts (who should be arrested for treason) said: we have to pay a made up tax because everyone is now force to buy a commercial product from insurance companies. That assho** put the final nail in the coffin.
No matter who wins the fixed Presidential election it will be: New Boss "Same as Old Boss" [Geo. Carlin]
Ron Paul or Gary Johnson is the only way to save whatever is left.
If you can read: Three Felonies a Day good book to show how the Federals have made everything criminal and The Dirty Dozen by the Cato Institute.
Peace