Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, Kucinich & Chomsky: "End The Left-Right Delusion, Corporatism Is The TRUE Enemy"

Kucinich:

• "Wars cost the U.S. $30 million per hour..."

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• Ralph Nader Joins the Ron Paul Bandwagon
• Ron Paul Says He Would Consider Putting Dennis Kucinich In His Cabinet
• Dylan Ratigan On The Grand Political Delusion: "Wake Up America! Both Parties Are The SAME! Six Industries Control Everything! It's Time For Independents To Rise!"

Ralph Nader seems to understand the endemic corporate cronyism better than any recent candidate outside of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich.

Republican special interests include corporations, wars, and the wealthy.

Democrat special interests include corporations, wars, and the wealthy.

At least we have political choice.

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Video - Comedian Richard Jeni - "Why The Left & The Right Both Suck..."

Just posted:

• Noam Chomsky On Tim Geithner

Comments

[DailyBail]

Ron Paul and the occupy Wall Street protest

By Doug Wead - New York Times bestselling author and former adviser to two American presidents. He is a senior adviser to Ron Paul.

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/ron-paul-and-the-occupy-wall-street-protest/

[Hugh]

Any future conversation we may have that doesn't begin AND end with the abolishment of the Federal Reserve is nonsense. Everything else is but a manufactured distraction.

"Slay the Creature from Jeckyl Island" should be the battlecry!

[DailyBail]

Hugh

If you've followed this site very long, than you know well that I cover the Fed ad nauseum. Probably more than 800 stories at this point. Use the search box in the right column and just start by reading some of the headlines. I push for auditing the Fed, ending the Fed and everything in between. But the absolutism inherent in your comment is off-base. The Central Banking cartel and fiat money might be at the top of the hierarchy, and help create the conditions under which Wall Street function, but that doesn't absolve Wall Street of wrongdoing. We are going after fraud and criminality at every level.

And one of those levels is Congress, owned by Wall Street, and major corporations. The DEMS and GOP are essentially the same party, both controlled by corporate interests.

[G Street]

Great clip. The wars costing us $30 million an hour! And Paul's comment about war's role in inflation is right on. They inflated to pay for wars, and they blew bubbles to disguise the weakening economy. While wages stagnated for 40 years, the value of SS/retirement was devalued as the Fed and Congress debased the currency to pay for their adventures.

[Hugh]

Yes, I am familiar with your site and think you do an admirable job of pointing the appropriate fingers at those who are very much deserving. However, you may have misconstrued my comment.

As a member of Freedom-Force Int. and a great admirer of G. Edward Griffin, I don't take lightly your presumption that I may be speaking in terms of "absolutes", commenting "off-base" or "absolving" anyone of anything.

We agree; there is plenty of blame to go around. IMO, there isn't sufficient rope on this planet to address the malfeasance of those on Wall St. and the lapdogs of Mordor on the Potomac.

When I initally read Griffin's tome "Creature" in 2007, it changed my world view as I'm sure it changed many others. So yes, I'm well aware that; how'd you put it; "Congress, owned by Wall Street, and major corporations. The DEMS and GOP are essentially the same party, both controlled by corporate interests?"

These are the words that someone of import should be yelling into the ears of the throngs at OccupyEverySt.

Concur?

PS Keep up the good work!

[DailyBail]

You will like this one, Hugh.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/10/03/where-is-the-ows-demand-to-end-the-fed/

[DailyBail]

Herman Cain is surging in popularity in a number of polls. So why is Herman Cain putting his campaign on hold for the next month?

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1003/Herman-Cain-leaving-the-campaign-trail-Why-now

[Chuck]

Corporate control? The US IS a corporation, founded in 1871! It is owned by its creditors. It is in bankruptcy (and a total of four international defaults) and the creditors run it - you know, those guys in Europe who own the private Federal Reserve Bank and other money machines. They can run the US government because they own it. And you have put your signature on it when you opened a bank account and field a tax return and got a drivers license and did not read the fine print. They do it all with your consent. Simply opt out.

[TLR]

If men like Kucinich, Nader, and Paul were running our country today, we wouldn't be in the economical state we're in. But no. We put up with the man the media and the media's corporations select for us. Ron Paul has my vote in 2012. I voted for Barack in 2008, but will switch to vote for Paul.

[No JUJU]

costing us $30 million per hour--balonry! It's only fabracated sums out of thin air. Like a spoiled child that gets all the money it cries for--USA is a soiled child, Hear me out--it's not the Fed but World's currency the dollar. Ever nation that needs oil purchase must have billions of USA dollars in reseve. How do they acquire it---hard labour and resources and conversion 5 to Yankee dollar. Question is--what right has the USA across the world to deal with currency that is worthless and not backed by gold. USA is like a big bank--loans money out or no oil/gas for you. Saddam tried to ban the Dollar and he got hung--@sshole Americans--hope the USA dollar is finished--night grow up :^/

[Irish Potato Gun]

Paul/Kucinich 2012! Screw the left and the right.

[unbound]

"The brightest and best thinkers are starting to understand that corporate control over Washington and both parties is the real enemy, a point which Dylan Ratigan has been making for months."

Months? Many of us have been making this point for years reaching into a decade now. And I definitely don't consider myself the brightest or best thinker around. It's been obvious for a good while, but I may have the advantage of working with a number of C-level executives as well as an MBA (some scary stuff is taught in the top 50 schools when you actually think about it).

As for Nader or Paul being viable candidates, they are libertarians which is an especially naive branch of politicians. Anyone who thinks a free market can exist in the present state of advanced economies clearly does not understand the requirements of a functional free market economy (e.g. easy entry of competitors into the market place, fully informed consumers, competitive products that are indistinguishable from each other...this is just a few examples necessary for a free market economy to actually produce what libertarians want). In fact, corporate interests are pretty good fans of libertarians since they want to deregulate everything allowing the oligopolies to run their market segments without fear of reprisal for misbehaving.

[FreeUS]

The Federal Reserve is the problem, they operate with the International Monetary Fund (ghost/middle man) to bail out big banks world-wide after they're done manipulating everyone's economies world-wide, and pay for it out of our U.S. Federal Reserve dollars.

"So thanks to Ron Paul, this past year, we were finally given a partial audit of the Federal Reserve. This applied to their activity in 2008. Here is what we learned. We learned that the Federal Reserved loaned out $16 trillion. That’s in one year. Keep in mind, that the entire accumulated national debt is just over $14 trillion. Remember Glenn Beck’s towering charts in his television studio?

And to whom did this money go? Well, banks, including banks that were owned by the members of the Federal Reserve board. Hmmmm. Nice huh? I guess they were secret for a reason. There were also a number of no bid contracts for companies to handle all of this. Here is a sweet tidbit, $3 trillion went to banks in foreign countries. We Americans are generous people. And oh, I almost forget, numerous corporations received this money too. For example, that big hamburger company, the one who needs federal subsidies? I think they got another $500 million interest free loan from the Federal Reserve.

Okay, who paid for that? Well, nobody. It was money “created” by the Federal Reserve. But you should really say that “everybody” paid for it because by increasing the money supply you are diluting its value for the rest of us. You are driving up the cost of wheat. You are causing famine in Africa." http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/ron-paul-and-the-occupy-wall-street-protest/

Reuters 10-5-11

[FreeUS]

The symptom: broken economy
The Cause: The FED
FED's cure: Offer U.S. stimulus via U.S. Federal Reserve as quantitative easing
Result: debasing currencies further, worthless dollar, and more debt
Reuter's: Europe market betting on future U.S. stimulus through our U.S. Federal Reserve!
International Monetary Fund is going to re-route non-existent stimulus U.S. Federal Reserve dollars to bailout Europe market & trading, we taxpayers pay the interest on the debt because they draw it on our bank(U.S. Federal Reserve)! This is the biggest scam of all- The Fed & the IMF!! This is why our founding fathers were against a Central Bank!

'Bonds fall on European moves, bets on Fed aid'

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/markets-bonds-idUSN1E7940QQ20111005

The FED offering our non-existent stimulus, bailing out world-wide banks! No way! End The Fed!!!

[dpayne]

Has anyone seen the video "The compassion of Ron Paul? It tells of a an averted crisis in the late sixties with a couple in the emergency room with a deadly pregnancy problem and no way to pay, Dr. Paul to the rescue. This eradicates any thought of Dr. Paul being a racist.

[DailyBail]

I've seen it. Will probably post it later.

[Double G]

David,

As I have stated to you previously, I write about these issues of concentrated economic power and capitalistic cronyism since 2005 and finally people like yourself are getting more and more exposure. I remember whenever I was on radio or in a public forum I was called everything from a conspiracy nut to just plan nuts. Keep it up man, people are are really waking up thanks to you and other notable people.

I truly believe we will prevail and the economic elite will be exposed for what they truly are and their goals, even though they influence much of the MSM.

Many thanks for your perseverance,

Greg

PS: I continue to link your posts in my newsletters and mention your website when I am on radio or public forums.

[Mark A. Adams JD/MBA]

If you wonder why both parties act against our interests, just think about how the votes are counted.

If you want to know the answer, see my short speech at http://markadams.blip.tv/file/2636803/ and then see the facts at http://ning.it/arAjdo

If you take a look, you’ll learn why those in power and those who can improperly influence them get away with violating our rights, abusing their power, and committing horrible crimes. My article on torture includes a link to the U.S. Supreme Court case which explains how one of our stolen rights makes the difference between justice and injustice, between freedom and slavery.

[Texas Dar]

Ralph Nader seems to understand the endemic corporate cronyism better than any recent candidate outside of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich.

Sad, Very Sad, so few know the truth............ Great Post DB..!

[Joel R]

This is misleading. Chomsky is adamantly opposed to Ron Paul, and the differences between Paul and leftists are very real. http://anarchismtoday.org/News/print/sid=74.html

The differences between free market libertarians and leftists are not a "distraction." They have everything to do with the evils we both hate. The libertarian's solution to corporatism is capitalism, not unlike trying to fight AIDS by spreading HIV.

[Hugh]

IMO, In the battle of ideas between Paul and Chomsky; Paul wins as the champion of personal liberties. What Chomsky and his ilk cannot abide is ownership of oneself.

While Dr. Paul begs the question of all men; by what right do men exercise power over each other? Chomsky will never volunteer an answer as it would expose the fallacy of his arguments.

“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.” ~ H. L. Mencken

[None]

"The libertarian's solution to corporatism is capitalism, not unlike trying to fight AIDS by spreading HIV."

And the Leftists answer to corporatism is like trying to cure AIDS with mass depopulation.

See, I can make hyperbolic, inaccurate statements too!