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Jun292012

Bill Moyers: 'Look Who's Really Writing the Healthcare Bill - Big Pharma & The Insurance Lobby'

Outstanding clip.

Video - PBS Bill Moyers Essay, The Health Care Lobby

A look back in the wake of yesterday's SCOTUS decision.

Who is actually writing the healthcare reform bill?  Lobbyists for Big Pharma and the insurance industry, of course.  The last time we saw massive healthcare legislation on Capitol Hill, it was for Medicare Part D, the prescription drug benefit.  As a result of this legislation and the work of former Congressman Billy Tauzin, Medicare is not allowed to negotiate drug prices with pharmaceutical companies.  David Walker called it the single most fiscally irresponsible bill in the last 50 years.

 

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It's not the greatest video but it does show the control of lobbying over legislation...

I can't imagine that any helalth care reform package will be anything but GREAT for existing insurance companies...
Oct 21, 2009 at 3:11 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
This video seems to have more of a liberal bias, accusing lobbyists and bit pharma of 'getting in the way of reform'. It's just another attack on the opposition and a way to garner public support. Not a good video at all!
Oct 21, 2009 at 3:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterAnon
Oh, the bribes are flying...

Oops, I mean campaign contributions.
Oct 21, 2009 at 3:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterS. Gompers
Anon...

Agreed...but it also spelled out the huge lobbying effort which is what we were emphasizing...find us another clip and post it here...if it makes the same points about the lobbying control over the process then we'll put it up...
Oct 21, 2009 at 3:46 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Another point Anon...i don't think you'll see big pharma or the insurance lobby fighting anything except a public option...this is a huge win for them...50 million new customers...they love it...and they are likely crafting every nuance to their benefit...

I think the type of reform we're doing will simply make things worse...i choose no change over what is coming from the Senate...and i don't think it's prospects are good for passage.
Oct 21, 2009 at 4:05 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Nah, that's OK, Uncle Sucker. I'll pass on the manditory insurance. You fucking assholes.

This could be the tipping point for a lot of people. You've got so many people already riled up about the health care "reform" anyway, this could just piss people off enough that they'll have to back down. I mean, what the fuck!? They can't MAKE us give our hard earned money away to some giant corporation that's been ripping us off for decades, can they? It's time we tea-party on their front lawns. Seriously. I don't believe in any of the "Illuminati" conspiracy theories, but you can't blame anyone for thinking that way. First they get their bailout trillions. Then the economy collapses. Then they pass the porkulus...er "stimulus." Then they sucker people back into the markets. Then they plan to take over health care and put us all into a medical database and control our lives. To say nothing of the Homeland Security State.

Come on, Daily Bailers, if this mandate stuff goes through, here's your chance to give 'em the Dick Cheney one-finger salute. Tell them NO! Jim Bunning style: NOOOO. Tell them you're opting out of Obamacare.

Bastards. Somebody deserves an ass whoopin' over this.
Oct 21, 2009 at 4:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
I think the mandate is a non-starter...no way that is constitutional...
Oct 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
I think the mandate is a non-starter...no way that is constitutional...

Let's hope so. But neither is nationalized health care.
Oct 21, 2009 at 6:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
"But neither is nationalized health care. "

Medicare is unconstitutional?
Oct 21, 2009 at 7:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterSomething Polish
Something Polish,

That was my point, that the Constitution has been irrelevant for a long time, and that even if insurance mandates are un-Constitutional, pointing it out was cold comfort.
Oct 21, 2009 at 8:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
Something Polish is right, slowly and for years the constitution has been eroded and replaced by contract law that
"supersedes" constitutional law. Rape was illegal once, but is justified by many in the Senate, because of a contract. Yet the parties can do no wrong in the minds of many people.

James, might want to rethink your position on those who would want to rule the world, that mindset is a natural extension of the mental state of people who have the level of greed that the people responsible for all this have. They truly believe, "why be happy as a big fish in the little pond, when with a little manipulation, you can be the big fish in the big pond."


Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Meanwhile the majority are just wondering what is on tv.
Oct 21, 2009 at 8:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterS. Gompers
Gomp,

It's not a matter of "mis-underestimating" human powerlust, it's just I've seen no evidence of a discrete group of people secretly conspiring to rule the world, Alex-Jones fashion. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but who are "they" and why hasn't one of them let the cat out of the bag? Certainly there are systems and power structures that produce a certain advantages for certain groups of people, and lead to certain kinds of control mechanisms, but the makeup of the group of people who both control and benefit from these conditions seems pretty fluid to me. Further, if you were a busy-body people pusher and had some smarts, you could be one of the managerial elites, too. Look at Geithner. No obvious talent. No extraordinary intelligence. Just a bureaucratic, busybody mindset and a penchant for kissing ass on the way up -- it's a time-honored formula for "success." I just don't see the overarching conspiracy to rule the world stuff. (Notice, mind you, that I'm actually willing to entertain the idea and discuss it rationally. Most people would just automatically say "conspiracy theory" and imagine that they had thereby given the matter some thought.)
Oct 21, 2009 at 8:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
From yesterday re: constitutionality, http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28463.html

"If Obama wants a health care plan that compels every American to carry insurance, he will have to persuade the nation to adopt a constitutional amendment creating a right to health care. You might have better odds of getting struck by lightning."

But yeah, "the Constitution has been irrelevant for a long time." ... :(
Oct 21, 2009 at 9:52 PM | Unregistered Commenterallie
Nice link Allie...very on-topic...

I get your point Polish but aren't you allowed to opt-out of medicare?...it isn't a punishable mandate...like there would be in the Senate plan...that's the affront...the absolute mandate to purchase very expensive insurance...young people will revolt when they learn they'll have to shell out 3-4K annually or pay a fine...the under 40 crowd who works in teh service industry will not be happy...

Ratigan's recent editorials on health care...both are EXCELLENT...

Why Would We Let Them Rig the Game?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-ratigan/why-would-we-let-them-rig_b_302480.html


Health Care: Let's Liberate the Masses
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-ratigan/health-care-lets-liberate_b_294234.html
Oct 21, 2009 at 11:35 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
:(
Oct 22, 2009 at 1:34 AM | Unregistered Commentergobias
i deleted because your comment made no sense and would only cause drama...i'm working my ass off on stories...don't feel like dealing with extraneous shit...seriously, give me a break gobias...
Oct 22, 2009 at 1:39 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
"if you were a busy-body people pusher and had some smarts, you could be one of the managerial elites, too."

James, I have lead men very sucessfully, but I never put myself above them. You are right, I guess groups of men , especially from both parties, working together, to strip civil liberties, antitrust laws, to work hand in hand with organizations such as the WTO, etc., to consolidate power and profitability globally, is a little far fetched...

Conspiracies are when there is no evidence, all of our leaders have spoken very publically on the new world order, etc., for many years.


http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/bohos/bohofact.html
Oct 22, 2009 at 6:54 AM | Unregistered CommenterS. Gompers
Ha, Ratigan is prompting legislation (I just read the first editorial, then the story above it)... "Dems Go After Antitrust Exemption For Insurers"-- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/dems-go-after-antitrust-e_n_329326.html

Anti-trust is really a non-issue though, and not even because it may or may not exist, but because its such a bad theory and a failed policy. But nice closing...

"How much longer must we live in a country where the citizens are subservient to the banks, health insurance companies and any other special interest able to control our government at the expense of our the most basic principles of fairness, our future as a nation and, as a result, our freedom?"
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:20 AM | Unregistered Commenterallie
I had always thought that the hundreds of pages of legal speak were written primarily by the Healthcare (Prevention for Profit) Industries attorneys, which along with their lost malfeasance case awards, political contributions and other "administrative costs" like 40 million dollar CEO bonuses hep to keep healthcare costs so high.

But I suspect, especially with the IMAC provisions, that the Foundations and Think Tanks that perpetuate the globalist ideology which crept into our administration through the Trilateral Commission had some hand in it as well. WM
Oct 22, 2009 at 10:28 AM | Unregistered CommenterWil Martindale
This clip is yet another example of how things work. Government paired with special interests = legislation foisted upon citizens regardless of Constitutionality. It works for them in banking and the military/industrial complex, and many other industries to a lesser extent, so why not health care? Works like a charm!

Clips like this just strengthen my belief that the whole system is just too far gone. They do not care about America or its citizens, period. They are not working for our best interest, only for their own self interests. We need a total start over. Practically nothing in our federal government is salvageable. Secession seems like a good alternative. I'm looking into Texas these days--Alaska is too cold for me.
Oct 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM | Unregistered CommenterSonic Ninja Kitty
"I had always thought that the hundreds of pages of legal speak were written primarily by the Healthcare (Prevention for Profit) Industries attorneys, which along with their lost malfeasance case awards, political contributions and other "administrative costs" like 40 million dollar CEO bonuses hep to keep healthcare costs so high.

But I suspect, especially with the IMAC provisions, that the Foundations and Think Tanks that perpetuate the globalist ideology which crept into our administration through the Trilateral Commission had some hand in it as well. WM"

Yep...not much to add..well said...
Oct 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
@SNK who wrote:

"Clips like this just strengthen my belief that the whole system is just too far gone. They do not care about America or its citizens, period. They are not working for our best interest, only for their own self interests. We need a total start over. Practically nothing in our federal government is salvageable."

I struggle with this as well...
Oct 24, 2009 at 11:57 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Ha, Ratigan is prompting legislation (I just read the first editorial, then the story above it)... "Dems Go After Antitrust Exemption For Insurers"-- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/dems-go-after-antitrust-e_n_329326.html

This is a good thing....
Oct 24, 2009 at 11:58 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
The central purpose of Government is the looting of the governed. Why is any-one surprised by this?
Oct 24, 2009 at 5:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterBill Jones
@Bill

I doubt you will find anyone surprised...did you see 60 minutes tonight on medicare fraud...?
Oct 25, 2009 at 9:35 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
‘Obama’s healthcare reform in favor of insurance companies’

http://presstv.com/detail/2012/06/29/248603/obamas-healthcare-reform-against-youth/
Jun 29, 2012 at 6:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterLiberatedCitizen
Peel back the stinking layers of this and we see drooling Jews rubbing their greedy hands together in anticipation of all the money they will be making. To hell with the end result as long as they get richer.

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JC, I logged in for the privilege of issuing this warning. Jerks come in all colors, races, sizes, creeds and otherwise. This mess was caused by all of the above. Trying to single out anyone will be useless and not tolerated. Your comment proves that you have much to learn and I hope that you will keep an open mind from from now on and look at all of the facts. Yes, humanity will have their cliques but as I have said before and will again, they come in all shapes, sizes, colors and creeds.

The well is already poisoned and adding more will be useless. Please stick to ALL of the facts. We need to be constructive. Fairness to all is very important and critical if we are ever to resolve this disaster.

DB, I hope you don't mind this intervention.

john
Jun 30, 2012 at 10:46 AM | Unregistered CommenterJC
Of course not john. Well done.
Jul 2, 2012 at 2:27 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail

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