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Thursday
Apr072011

Bill Gross: "Treasuries Have Little Value Given Our $75 Trillion National Debt; We Are Out-Greeking The Greeks"

  • Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security now account for 44% of total federal spending and are steadily rising.
  • Previous Congresses (and Administrations) have relied on the assumption that we can grow our way out of this onerous debt burden.
  • Unless entitlements are substantially reformed, the U.S. will likely default on its debt; not in conventional ways, but via inflation, currency devaluation and low to negative real interest rates.

That adorable skunk, Pepé Le Pew, is one of my wife Sue’s favorite cartoon characters. There’s something affable, even romantic about him as he seeks to woo his female companions with a French accent and promises of a skunk bungalow and bedrooms full of little Pepés in future years. It’s easy to love a skunk – but only on the silver screen, and if in real life – at a considerable distance. I think of Congress that way. Every two or six years, they dress up in full makeup, pretending to be the change, vowing to correct what hasn’t been corrected, promising discipline as opposed to profligate overspending and undertaxation, and striving to balance the budget when all others have failed. Oooh Pepé – Mon Chéri! But don’t believe them – hold your nose instead! Oh, I kid the Congress. Perhaps they don’t have black and white stripes with bushy tails. Perhaps there’s just a stink bomb that the Congressional sergeant-at-arms sets off every time they convene and the gavel falls to signify the beginning of the “people’s business.” Perhaps. But, in all cases, citizens of America – hold your noses. You ain’t smelled nothin’ yet.

I speak, of course, to the budget deficit and Washington’s inability to recognize the intractable: 75% of the budget is non-discretionary and entitlement based. Without attacking entitlements – Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security – we are smelling $1 trillion deficits as far as the nose can sniff. Once dominated by defense spending, these three categories now account for 44% of total Federal spending and are steadily rising. As Chart 1 points out, after defense and interest payments on the national debt are excluded, remaining discretionary expenses for education, infrastructure, agriculture and housing constitute at most 25% of the 2011 fiscal year federal spending budget of $4 trillion. You could eliminate it all and still wind up with a deficit of nearly $700 billion! So come on you stinkers; enough of the Pepé Le Pew romance and promises. Entitlement spending is where the money is and you need to reform it.

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March 11 (Bloomberg) -- Bill Gross, who runs the world's biggest bond fund at Pacific Investment Management Co., discusses the outlook for the U.S.'s AAA credit rating. Gross, speaking from Newport Beach, California, with Margaret Brennan on Bloomberg Television's "InBusiness," also talks about the 8.9-magnitude earthquake that struck Japan and the Federal Reserve's quantitative easing.

Summary from Bloomberg:

Gross Echoes Buffett Saying Treasuries Have ‘Little Value’ on Debt, Dollar

 

 

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Reader Comments (11)

If the U.S government went back to tariffs and stopped murdering everyone outside centralized banking,and hired real pros to audit for high income tax cheating and carried through with actual enforcement, the problem would be solved. If Monsanto's lands were taken for their irresponsible aggressive poisoning of us all and small parcels of these lands given to veterans and jobless people, surplus yields from production would soon follow. GMO nonsense is for perverts who think militant sodomy has social merit.
Mar 31, 2011 at 9:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterHoward T. Lewis III
Dismantle the healthcare industry and subsidize it like the energy industry, wars and banksters. Money up front towards preventive medicine and natural remedies would halve the medicare liabilities. BUT no one wants to talk about the "problem" in a intelligent or rational manner. The problems we face as a country are not the same problems our leaders want to find a real solution too. Sure they'll cut back on the programs, kill a few million people, have people suffer more on their greedy behalf.

Its a mad mad world.
Mar 31, 2011 at 10:37 PM | Unregistered Commenterdogismyth
A Gross lie.
No one cringes any more when Social Security is described as a crippling expenditure of the "federal spending". We are all supposed to forget that it is an INSURANCE. "Social Security is a social insurance program that is funded through dedicated payroll taxes called Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA)".
The fact that the money is long ago stolen by the politicians and their puppet masters does not quite change the fact. The secondary fact is that if the actual money would be there, it would be growing as we speak, while the IOU's in its' place add to the debt burden, bitter irony of it all!
While working on contract teaching at an university, i personally shelled out over 14% every month into this "insurance". Now i am supposed to start drooling and in slurred speech repeating after Bill Grosses that the Social Security is spending other people's money? The history is written every day, and it is all one big lie.
Mar 31, 2011 at 11:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterAl Ray
why is it always an 'entitlement' problem? i never got asked if i wanted to join in any scheme like social security. did anyone? the money is automatically stolen from my check along with medicaid/medicare. any graph that doesn't show a comparison with abusive government spending is totally fraudulent.

until we physically remove the people complicit in these fraudulent schemes, nothing will change.
Mar 31, 2011 at 11:13 PM | Unregistered Commentercm
any entitlement changes made will be means testing of the wealthy...
Mar 31, 2011 at 11:49 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
I just don't understand this, except that Bill Gross is a Wall Street man. He does not mention the bailouts to the banks or the wars that are costing trillions. I think that all the woes of America are being pinned on medical bills. Yet 60 million people (and growing) do not have coverage. I'm one of them. Not any mention of how the banks create money. No mention that we already have millions of homeless (they are just not televised). There is just something wrong with the system itself and wall street is one of the problems. Hedge funds, derivatives....these things are not be spoken about. They fail to mention how speculators drive up prices. This is more complicated than just medicare.
Apr 1, 2011 at 12:28 AM | Unregistered Commentercathy
BILL GROSS is a criminal.

Bill Gross the same person who went on CNBC and admitted he made 1 billion dollars in a day on insider trading from the federal reserve.
Apr 1, 2011 at 2:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterBenny and the Talibanks
FINALLY!!!!

Obama just released a copy of his long form birth certificate. I guess we can thank Donald Trump for getting Obama to release it. This should really piss off the left. What’s the next step?

It looks like it is a photograph of the document but then they have blackened out some of the more relevant details.

It will take some time for those in the know to vet this release for authenticity. My guess is that there is something fishy about it and I doubt that they can obtain the information that is blackened out.

I wonder if this will lead to the release of Col Lakin from prison. I say no because that would mean that Obama is going to be removed from office.
Apr 1, 2011 at 11:18 AM | Unregistered CommenterIt Just Got Interesting
Nothing can be done until first, above all else, the Federal Reserve is abolished. Then Cancel the 5 trillion "owed" to the Fed. Then prosecute those that extorted trillions, confiscating their entire holdings and return it back to the treasury(read people). There isn't enough money in circulation to pay off the debt. That was the design of the Fed, by fractional reserve banking, to transfer the wealth from the nation to a few. I figure reverse osmosis should work.
Apr 1, 2011 at 2:46 PM | Unregistered Commenterrobertsgt40
Al Ray, you're spot on that Social Security is not "unfunded" it's just being robbed from. Until the last tax cut "compromise," it was forecast to be in the black until near the end of this century. That got trampled on when Congress, desperate to make it look like they were giving something to working people so it wouldn't ALL go to the rich, decided to let us keep 2% of the 7 1/2% premiums they usually tap in the form of FICA withholding. That gives working stiffs a 2% "tax cut" by stealing their insurance premiums. That cut will guarantee that Social Security will collapse years sooner from lack of funding.

Poor people, working people, and the destitute aren't running the economy into the ground, greedy global corporatists who can hide their income offshore are. A dollar invested in human infrastructure-- health, education, housing-- is a dollar that's kept from the piranhas who own our politicians. American capitalists can't wait to sell every US asset overseas. The stock exchanges are all gone or going that way. I think it was Daddy Bush who kept (at the last possible moment) an Arab firm from scooping up most of the US ocean freight handling facilities. And the capitalists got all in a twist about that. We're facing some hard-going for awhile, but maybe, if people can just figure out who the enemy is (hint, it's not Obama), then maybe the US can get back to what it's good at-- creating goods people the world over want to buy, and opportunities for all of its citizens to excel and thrive.
Apr 7, 2011 at 7:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterJay C. Davis
wow I like this website. Al Ray and Jay C. Davis have seen the light!
Apr 7, 2011 at 9:14 PM | Unregistered Commenterkc

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