There Are No Words To Describe The Following Part II

WHO IS KEEPING TRACK OF THE TRILLIONS?

Alan Grayson questions the Inspector General of the Federal Reserve - 05/09/10

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WHO IS KEEPING TRACK OF THE TRILLIONS?

If you're in a hurry, start watching at the 3-minute mark.  At issue is the accounting and oversight for $9 trillion in secret Fed bailouts of Wall Street banks, for which taxpayers are ultimately responsible to the tune of $32,000 for every man, woman and child in this country.  Fed audit, anyone?

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[shiftym151]

it worked in another country.....LETS REVOLT

[Mac]

You must be kidding. Buy back the Fed? It may be in the law, but what happens to politicians and officials who buck the moneylenders? Abe Lincoln. JFK. Justice Martin V. Mahoney. George Hansen.
The moneylenders have fomented wars and economic disasters that have cost the lives of hundreds of millions of people. Why think they will not embarrass, ruin, sicken and kill officials and others who threaten their leech-grip on the world?

Pay back the Chinese, etc.? Pay off the national debt? Impossible. The only place to get the "money" to pay the interest with is to borrow more. Every "dollar" issued, except for a few United States Notes floating around out there, is borrowed into existence, at interest, from the Fed. If every "dollar" was given back to the Fed, the interest would still be owed. Since gold and silver coin were demonetized (taken out of circulation), the only source of "dollars" to pay the interest is the Fed. When gold and silver were money, if the interest rate had been low enough (it never was), there was some possibility of digging more gold and silver out of the ground to pay the interest. That is no longer possible, as gold and silver are no longer in circulation as money.

[Edwin Banner]

Nobody this out of touch with reality should be in this posaition, doesn't she know how pissed off we are at the mishandling of our money

[Sagebrush]

"how pissed off we are at the mishandling of our money"

They don't care! Congress and the administration are backing the FED and the special interests. With out them on our side nobody gives a damn how pissed off we are about anything.

[Texas Dar]

it worked in another country.....LETS REVOLT

I dont think we will need to wait much longer. More & More countrys are doing the same. Sucess spreads, and it will spread to the west as soon as 4-8 more countrys make it happen.

America's slogen should be "Lets Getter Done", im sure Larry would be proud to lead us on this one too....?

In just a few more weeks the Rep. can bring the run-a-way train to a halt. I asked God to wake up the Rep. and pull the brake handle. Nothing will change on the bottom. Thats whAre we all are. Yes, the Dumb-a-Crats warn us "Our Way of Life" will come to a hault.

Its theirs that will be left with no more of our money to play with. They thought they had a party in the streets last week. If it happens, it will mean for the first time in 100 years, the "We the People" will have control of the throtle, the train, and all the cars behind.

The "Ben Ber Nank" & all of his friends will be ready to shoot them self's for fear of the American People comming after them............................it worked in another country.....LETS REVOLT
Just hang on, it may happen faster than you would want it too......! Madeoff is safe behind bars. The rest Aint ?

[esch70@gmail.com]

I have never heard such crap that says absolutely nothing in five minutes in my life. I can sum 5 minutes up in a simple phrase! "Honey, you are CYAing it all over! Plus you are one of the biggest lying SOB's I have ever heard"
Thank you!

[John Boanerges Redman]

There was a beautiful YouTube of a black congress \-critter grilling a high-ranking Navy Officer about a proposed increase in personnel on Guam. The concerned in-DAH-vidual was worried that any more people on the island might make it tip over. Yes, that was what he said. The Navy type did a wonderful job of not blowing the idiot out of the water. Thus this poor woman avoided making the very ignorant politician look the fool (that he is). Coleman was not prepared to be questioned by a monkey, however leading to all you indignant ones to shower hate in her direction. Several posters here have laid it out clearly and yet most persist in harrowing the Fed person. I hold no brief for her or, certainly, the Fed but it should have been Paul doing the questioning which would have produced real tough questions. The grand-stander muddied up the ground.

[3strongwomen]

Most people are not aware that this is not a part of the govt. but an entity just like a bank.

[RICK]

ITS TIME NOW. FOR EVERYONE TO START STOCK PILING AT LEAST 6 MONTHS TO A YEAR OF FOOD,WATER AND WEAPONS. WHEN THE DOLLAR GOES DOWN THE TUBE IT WILL BE TO LATE.NO ONE WILL BE THERE TO HELP YOU. NO ONE. NOT THE GOVERMENT. NO ONE. PLEASE WAKE UP AMERICA,THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE LESS MONEY TO DO SOMETHING WITH. GET WITH YOUR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS AND MAKE A PLAN SO YOU CAN COMBINE YOUR FUNDS AND BUY SUPPLIES NOW PLEASE BEFORE ITS TO LATE. YES ITS TIME TO PANIC NOW, NOT TOMMROW OR NEXT WEEK. NOW BEFORE YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY OR ITS NOT THERE.I KNOW THIS SOUNDS BAD. IT REALY IS. DON'T WAIT ,DO IT NOW RIGHT NOW.

[BBCBV57]

Banks have no money (skin) in the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVpLD05ziig

[BBCBV57]

more ammo DEBUNKING THE FRB

http://inclusion.semitagui.gov.co/Subjects/MoneyBanking/FederalReserve/FRconspire/culture.htm

[TheEndIsnear]

I am afraid Rick is right..........

[Peanutman]

Federal Reserve with no valid Congressional Oversight--The Fed Res. doing it to the country without a Kiss Goodnight.

[Robert H Mercer]

Well, I am one of the lucky ones who has the good fortune NOT to live in the US. With all the bitching that I have just read I am surprised that nobody has come up with the real answer. All the time you stupid yanks keep electing a total idiot as President, yeah alright a very rich total idiot - so what, corrupt individuals as Senators or whatever, who promptly elect their incompetent and corrupt mates to be judges etc.,I mean just who was the fucking moron who put mega-mouth Hilary in as SOS? Perlease! Your whole rotten system is corrupt it is all about power and money - each supporting the other. The half-breed prick you have now sitting in the white house is no exception...........he is out of his depth......totally. What should be the question is:- Who appointed this stupid woman, Coleman to the job? Or would it be more pertinent to ask with whom was she sleeping to get appointed. NORTON is right on the ball. DISGUSTED is a dickhead......or doesn't he/she have a real name? You yanks are too stupid to see that all your pollies care about is themselves.

[TomTomDrummer]

What we ALL need to do is "WALK LIKE AN EGYPTIAN"! Yell, scream, rant, bang a drum, gather in large numbers, and don't go home until "CHANGE" is in the works.

[Michael]

I don't know why anybody is surprised. Anyone who has watched CSPAN even occasionally will have seen this sort of exchange in countless forums. The issue is: What is the philosophy of our governors? More precisely, what is the philosophy of liberals? Their philosophy is that the governed are like sheep to be sheared or as victims to be abused and disregarded. If they have a cavalier attitude toward capital or wealth or taxes or personal property or constitutional responsibility or duty, then they will not act w/any concern for anything other than their own interests regardless of whatever damage may occur. Watch how unions or rights-oriented groups (blacks, gays, illegals, animal rights, etc.) act. Their interests must come first or else they are livid and implacable. These liberally-oriented groups have little concern for the well-being of the broader society and will facilitate its demise in the pursuit of their preferences. Themselves first, others after. When this dynamic is juxtaposed against external concerns or enemies, then we will all lose. God help us all..............

[JustMe]

John Demo: Get a life. & learn the TRUE root of the problems rather than taking the easy way out by blaming Bush like so many other imbecilic morons who claim to be running our country. Such ignorance. *sigh* :)

[tomtomdrummer]

JustMe--- Another typical annonimous poster can't take the heat, stay out of the comment section--- Where did you get the Bush is at fault idea?!? WE the SHEEPLE are at fault. AS YOU CAN SEE, BLAME ENDS IN "ME"! I let this happen by not speaking out sooner, you ARE to blame for not speaking out to the right people. I don't blaME Bush or Obama, or Clinton, nor do I blaME the Kennedys!!! Work on climbing out of your nutshell as to whom blaMEs who!

[OOPS what happened?]

Just keep voting for these idiots. The only CHANGE your going to have is what your dollars will leave behind after they collapse. There printing dollars as you read this and funneling it to there buddies, and there is nothing you can do about it. They already know what comes after a trillion and can't wait to get there. Both sides have been selling us out for decades. lets hope the tea party can slow it down. I feel sorry for the kids growing up today. They will never know what America once was and will be programmed to think this is how it should be. It was fun while it lasted, now get back to work so the government can waste more of your tax dollars. T U P in motion.

[Sagebrush]

The newly elected Tea Party folks are already sucking up that sell your soul special interest money. Your dreaming if you think they're going to change a completely corrupt political system. Wake up people, a majority of the whole damn government is compromised and majority rules in this country. Of course that majority is owned, controlled, guided, and told what to do by less then one and a half percent of the American People.

Capitalism at it's best. The ultra rich rule, period.

Get used to it, thats how it's going to go till the American People get their heads out of asses and demand change. Throwing a voting booth lever in a rigged election is not going to change a damn thing. Millions marching will.

[Imsovain]

Hay futuregasm. if it's not her job why don't you do the number's you seem to no so much. you moron.

[Nick]

Fire her and give me my 30,000 you know the public will have to make that up

[Bev]

Why is it that some invididuals have to constantly "pepper" their conversations with four-letter words, especially the "f" word? It may be vogue to do so, but I find it disgusting and unnecessary. While it is done mostly by the younger generation, too many others also seem to find it funny, cute, or necessary in order to keep up with their peers. Let's have respect for mature individuals who know how to use refined language, or else consult the Dictionary and Thesaurus for better choices of words. I am not a prude, but find this off-color language out of context, crude and over-used.

[vladdy]

Oh, boy. Disgusted, let's do business. You seem to believe whatever you're told, so let me tell ya 'bout a bridge I have for sale in Brooklyn.

"Look up his history." Sheesh, are you naive! I have whole books about and have studied countless sites figuring out his history. You, on the other hand, seemed to have read nothing but his official "bio" at WH.gov.

And the stupid remark about muslim and blacks.... muslims are a religion, they can be of any race, you dumba$$.

Then you show your age and immaturity by calling people "old," when we all know nobody over college age refers to anybody not a student as "old." or thinks it's a slur. You think old is stupid? Wait till you have to explain things to "young."

Sigh....You probably have about 20 years till you grow up and become a conservative and stop your Obama-luv. Unfortunately, the way he's going, there won't be any US of A.

Riots worldwide, the gov. suing states, open borders, and everybody (except college students) is broke...Enjoying your hope and change? Oh, but I bet you still think he's so "coool,",,,,just like JayZ..... or something.

Geesh!

[Casey]

love our government, guess we all forgot about that paper called the constititution.. don't like them over throw them. I got a beeter idea though lets all bend over and not use KY cause that's what were doing.

[Faith Pyka]

She appears to not want to answer the question. Who would want to keep track of wasteful spending in the trillions? Obviously, not our politicians because they want to continue to spend other people's money with no responsibility in doing so. We need responsible people in our government offices. Time for some serious changes.

[wickedirishman]

I love the douche in the backround whispering in her ear, and between all of those people they still have not a clue lmao

[Carla]

Its time. Dump the Fed!

The plan, known as The American Monetary Act was discussed at the American Monetary Institute 2005 Monetary Reform Conference….

The proposed three part reform of our currency system would have the U.S. Government directly spend the money into circulation rather than the present method of allowing the banking system to create the money and then the government borrowing the money. Funding such infrastructure expenses through bonds generally doubles to triples their final cost.

The reform avoids this expense by removing the fractional reserve provision of the present system, which in effect allows the banking system to create the much needed new money that must be continually introduced into the economy, as population and economic activity expands; or when emergencies such as Katrina, or warfare require great expenditures. Under the reform only the U.S. government, not the private banking system would be allowed to create money.

"Under the present private control, money goes largely into speculative bubbles, including Wall Street games and real estate" he said, "Under societal control it would go much more to promoting the general welfare. Inflation is avoided because real material wealth has been created in the process, and catastrophic loss including loss of life is prevented.”

Lawmakers have often believed they could ignore the big questions on how our money system is structured. Right from the Constitutional Convention delegates ignored societies monetary power and the excellent record of government issued money in building colonial infrastructure and giving us a nation.* They left the money power up for grabs when properly estimating it would have meant placing it in a fourth, monetary branch of government. History shows that the money power will be a fourth branch whether we recognize it as such or not. It’s not safe to leave so much power and privilege in private hands! It’s counter to our system of checks and balances. The developing crisis requires us to re-evaluate and focus on it now. That’s my suggestion. Lets fulfill our responsibility to get a real understanding of this problem and the solution.

As the late Congressman Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency for over 16 years, said, "I have never yet had anyone who could, through the use of logic and reason, justify the Federal Government borrowing the use of its own money....I believe the time will come when people will demand that this be changed. I believe the time will come in this country when they will actually blame you and me and everyone else connected with the Congress for sitting idly by and permitting such an idiotic system to continue.”

So don't panic, we can and will deal with this. I'm ready are you?

[M J Harrington, Palm Desert, CA]

Why do we trust Bernanke to keep printing dollars in order to devalue our curancy? His method of handling the monitary problems is not best. Many economists and professors who know economics do not go along with way this President and his ontarage are chosing to use our dollars. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should be taken out. Several of the Czars need to go and we must continue to back the representatives who are trying to cut the spending. Let's use the gas stations who provide oil from the USA. Get educated about which oil companies are free of mid east oil. Support our own companies.

[DENNIS]

JUST LIKE JOHN KENNEDY SAID,, WE NEED TO DO AWAY WITH THE FED. IT IS A PRIVATE BANKING SYSTEM, CALLED THE FED TO CONFUSE COMMON PEOPLE, THAT HAS COMPLETE ACCESS TO THE US TREASURY. AND IT SEEMS LIKE NO ONE IS WATCHING WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING. THEY,(WHO ARE THEY) TAKE OUR MONEY, LOAN IT BACK TO BANKS AND US, CHARGE INTEREST THAT GOES INTO THEIR POCKETS, NOT THE TREASURY, AND WE GET STUCK WITH THE BILL,,, IMAGINE IF THE US TREASURY GOT THAT INTEREST? IT WOULD PAY FOR SSA, MEDICARE, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE? ,,,JFK SAID DO AWAY WITH THE FED,,,,AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO JFK FOR SAYING DO AWAY WITH THE FED,,,,,,

[DENNIS]

HEY, DISGUST, YOU ARE THE RACIST. THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE THE BUMMER IS A FOREIGNER THAN THERE IS HE IS AMERICAN. HE VISITED PAKISTAN WHEN IT WAS OFF LIMITS TO "REAL AMERICANS" ,, HAD TO USE A FOREIGN PASSPORT. HE HAS A CONNECTICUT SSA NUMBER BELONGING TO A DEAD MAN,,, ILLEGALS DO THAT SORT OF THING. THE KENYANS SAY THEY ARE PROUD OF "THEIR" VILLAGE SON BEING PRESIDENT. HE REFUSES TO KEEP HIS PROMISE OF "BEING THE MOST OPEN ADMINISTRATION EVER" AND PROVIDE HIS "REAL LONG FORM" BIRTH CERTIFICATE,, WHY??? ONLY SOMEONE WITH SOMETHING TO HIDE, AN ILLEGAL, WOULD HIDE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE,, HE GOT A SCHOLARSHIP,, FOREIGN?? WE CAN ONLY GUESS, AS HE HIDES HIS SCHOOL RECORDS,, WHY?? ONLY AN ILLEGAL WOULD DO THAT,,, NO ONE CAN BE FOUND THAT REMEMBERS HIM LIVING IN HAWAII,, NO ONE CAN BE FOUND THAT REMEMBERS HIM AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY,, WHY? BECAUSE HE MOST LIKELY NEVER LIVED IN HAWAII AS AN AMERICAN,, HE WAS AN ILLEGAL, HIDING,, UNTIL HE GOT HIS ILLEGAL SSA NUMBER FROM CONNECTICUT FROM HIS GRANDMOTHER WHO HAD ACCESS AT HER PLACE OF WORK. WHAT WE NEED IS FOR OUR HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO INVESTIGATE THE OBUMMER LIKE THEY DID NIXON,,, AND DEMANDED THE NIXON TAPES,,, THEY SHOULD DEMAND THE OBAMA PAPERS
,,,,, REMEMBER THE NIXON TAPES?? WHERE ARE THE BUMMER PAPERS???
REMEMBER THE NIXON TAPES??? WHERE ARE THE OBAMA PAPERS????????????

[Julie]

I see this was posted two years ago..I just got it in an email today...so I guess its still going around. So did having people forward this in emails change in anything? I don't see how sending this information on to emails is suppose to help.

[hungry4food]

Is Globalization in Its Final Days?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110219/ap_on_re_us/g20_finance_ministers#mwpphu-container



the solution to the lack of fundamentals backing up dollars is competition driving how those dollars are used ... heres a way to create that competitive way to make the dollar more than just paper maybe , by breaking the paper only trading thats been going on with the To Big to Fail High Frequency Trading group the only question is will this lead to utilization of capital to expand resource /food/commodities supply that is showing shortages by market reactions and overweighed debt markets with no supply to back up the paper ....

EU Ponders Tobin Tax bank lobby insisted Tobin tax would cause serious damage to computerized, rapid-fire trading http://ning.it/fe0IyW - I think this will fall short as the proceeds will be sucked up by debt with nothing left to expand resource supply with .


While they trade Paper dollars around the Global , supply seems to be shrinking .... are they stupid or strategic ?? And does it play well for the US people when we see this going on inside our country ?
WHO IS KEEPING TRACK OF THE TRILLIONS? The Federal Reserve Awareness Project



http://dailybail.com/home/there-are-no-words-to-describe-the-following-part-ii.html

Here is the evidence of Failure of the Responsibility of the Federal Reserves top Priority , Funding the Interests and developments of expanding the Food Base so we the people can feed the demand , does this look like the Federal Reserve has done their Job ???
http://www.cattlenetwork.com/cattle-news/latest/Jolley-Droughts-and-floods-food-and-fuel.html
http://www.cattlenetwork.com/cattle-news/Soaring-food-prices-lead-to-global-unrest.html?ref=159
http://www.cattletradercenter.com/articleview.aspx?count=20&path=/cattle-news/latest&lid=11
watch this Video which explains the meaning of supply shortage and what that means to Life ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKP7KvUxHcM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wheat_yields_in_developing_countries_1951-2004.png , shows overall grain yields over the past 10 years have flat lined


Shouldn't We be controlling our Own vital resource supply if we choose to Be Independently FREE , and we are not doing that as you see these links are showing , so how can we generate the highest maximum returns on these raw materials in our own country to try and pay down debts and create the most jobs ??

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5h3tMGThD1bVMfWa0kXDU5qK3g_wQ?docId=N0451471296454650220A
Chinese national company is interested in Boise ......
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/10/11/1374846/chinese-politics-spotlight-idahos.html
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/12/31/1472023/chinese-company-eyes-boise.html
RUSSIANS TO BUY WYOMING URANIUM MINE ??
http://www.songoftruth.org/forum/topics/russians-to-buy-wyoming




http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Henry_Kissinger , Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world. "Wherever a lessening of population pressures through reduced birth rates can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resource supplies and to the economic interests of the United States."

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/621153/cia_predicts_the_future_2015_water_resources/
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/621146/cia_predicts_the_future_2015_overpopulation/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1346357/World-faces-overpopulation-disaster-number-people-set-rise-75-million-EACH-YEAR.html


I don't think they really care about expanding supply-side economics fundamentals it doesn't give the Globalists the control they seek , what do you think ?

[hungry4food]

Watch the first video to see the way they roll over and over the capital to create the leverage on the currency to keep the demand of its use in circulation , but as far as the economic remedy in the Credits go I say these are communist rooted remedies and the USA people need to start New on their own under the Constitution , so Kick the Federal Reserve and those that are in the USA extracting our Resources out NOW and we the people can make our way ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMkXA6kqNsw&feature=player_embedded , and then ask is the level of Ignorance , or Arrogance , in these next 2 videos , reason to Audit the Federal Reserves management of the Dollars Use as Reserve Currency , and , continue below please ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3mEe8TH7w&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RAugiQsTR0&feature=related

( but remember we are seeing a Peaking of willingness by the multi-national BRIC nations to continue to accept the dollar , so the time has come to mop it up so to speak because these BRIC nations have ended up using the Federal Reserves ponsy scheme to consolidate all the worlds intrinsic value in raw materials, the BRIC are even inside the USA extracting our Raw material Resources the giver of our FREEDOM to stay Independent hello , whose running the country ??
And now add these next links together with what you just researched above to expand the way they engineered the financial ponsy scheme ;
And while the Foreigners mine our Vital Life giving resources away our Government lets our own Private Enterprises go Broke ??

And at the same time Our Domestic Enterprises that create our communities Jobs and wealth circulation in our nation being undermined like THIS ??? What in Gods name is Going on here ???
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2011-02-12-seahawk-drilling_N.htm
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/02/obamas_drilling_moratorium_cau.html

The Federal Reserve and Central bankers roll over and over the Money they trade with each other and those multi-Nationals that create something out of raw material resources , and these vital resources which has now been consolidated by the BRIC nations is calling for the Federal Reserve to Replace the dollar with a Currency of their choice , so the question is not that the Federal Reserve has ran this ponsy scheme out to the point of USA economic collapse , are they going to walk away from the USA people leaving us to go broke , and loose our Resource base of Life giving Liberty and FREEDOM , all because they Used the USA Resource base as a leveraged asset to run this Debt up to this Point , and go be the BRIC nations new Financial printing Press of the 21st Century .

We better be controlling our Own vital resource supply if we choose to Be Independently FREE , and we are not doing that as you see these links are showing ,


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5h3tMGThD1bVMfWa0kXDU5qK3g_wQ?docId=N0451471296454650220A
Chinese national company is interested in Boise ......
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/10/11/1374846/chinese-politics-spotlight-idahos.html
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/12/31/1472023/chinese-company-eyes-boise.html
RUSSIANS TO BUY WYOMING URANIUM MINE ??
http://www.songoftruth.org/forum/topics/russians-to-buy-wyoming
But this Ponsy Scheme the Federal Reserve has been playing with this International Market functioning under the LIE of FREE trade while the ASIAN members of the BRIC manipulated their Currency values to the Point of that fraud creating their advantage to consolidate these raw materials in exchange for their rolling the dollars they exchanged for these raw assets back to the FEDERAL RESERVE and they in turn rolled these bundled up worthless credits into the Derivative markets and grew that to the point of collapse we see as there is Nothing to back these bundles of worthless paper up,
http://www.mi2g.com/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//www.mi2g.com/cgi/mi2g/press/230310.php

[hungry4food]

, while this process was taking place over the years of FREE trade and we did nothing to balance the value of the dollar by maintaining a tangible asset class in control by the nation that represents the dollar , THE United States of America , doing that with a tariff Trade Policy because we were the Higher valued currency to begin with , and would need to be the enforcing agent of this value , and so we continued to allow the manipulation work to the advantage of the BRIC nations and they now control all the Life giving resources around the world together as a alliance thats becoming more and more hostile by the Day , and have the USA and the Federal Reserve Dependent upon these BRIC nations to the Point that they are Now willing to use this Leverage Against the USA by calling for an end of the dollar , our Representative of USA Raw material worth and the durable life giving products we the people can create our life giving freedoms with , Do We the People Realize this is what FREEDOM , LIBERTY is created with ?? the Drive through window at MC Ds is only as relevant as the Supply that FEEDS whats In the bag , Hello America is anyone Listening ?? But The actions of our Trade Policy and the Federal Reserve have placed The BRIC nations Control our Freedom and Democracy as a FREE Nation in this current World Market system and they are about to use it against the People of the USA by Inflating now what they control by restricting the developments of what they control and shrinking the supply to the point of rationing and we the people will whither away . !!!!!
China and Russia call for New World Currency while it Mines and Develops USA Oil Resources , What in GODS name is going on here ??? This right here is an admission of Guilt by our Government to Not enforce the Trade rules of FREE floating Currency laws so the USA could Maintain some form of tangible value behind the Dollar either as a Industrial base or a paid duty on imported products , this is a CRIME against the American People and we NEED JUSTICE NOW !!!!!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123780272456212885.html
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/01/content_11109506.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/8316834/International-Monetary-Fund-director-Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-calls-for-new-world-currency.html
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=109774 if Tariffs would have been in place all these years we wouldn't be in this mess and behind the 8 ball on controlling our Vital Resources the giver of Independence !!!!!
It was all a method of this Trade Policy , that has led to ONLY a consolidation of current world resource supplies without very little expansion in Resource supply and now we are seeing the results of this in Volatility in price stabilization in Commodities , a Pure Instinct of Human Beings Level of Understanding this as a Independent Free Thinking survival Instinct .

The High Cost of the China-WTO Deal: Administration’s own analysis suggests spiraling deficits, job losses; By Robert E. Scott; February 1, 2000:
http://ning.it/cNJn9O
And
http://ning.it/bTIt9f
It has also taken Mexico\’s Jobs away over the years too. Europe\’s Jobs too. This is all because of a Simple Currency manipulation that does nothing to promote quality in our products.
Remember what Ross Perot said , we would Hear a Giant Sucking Sound with this Trade Policy , he was right . http://www.thenation.com/article/new-giant-sucking-sound


It was all a method of this Trade Policy , that has led to ONLY a consolidation of current world resource supplies without very little expansion in Resource supply and now we are seeing the results of this in Volatility in price stabilization in Commodities , a Pure Instinct of Human Beings Level of Understanding this as a Independent Free Thinking survival Instinct .
And then as these site are showing , the effects of International Trade and trying to help develop undeveloped nations is actually leading to a Buildup of resistance to the WEST , with this Military force thats forming between BRIC nations , as all these years of Federal Reserve and International Bankers , the Ones We the people bailed out , it looks like Now they are going to Reject to continue to use the Dollar as Trade currency because the BRIC and OPEC nations are now disolving into a New World Order together controlling the majority of World vital Resources , so does the USA fall into this One World Order and sacrifice our FREEDOMS of Choice , or do we Stand FREELY alone and sustain our nation ?? I thought START TREATY was to do away with the need of a nuke strike ????
Bolton: The Russians Want First Strike Capability
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00_BrHmI28I
China Gearing Up for War as the American People Watch Dancing with the Stars
Click here for MORE
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703374304575622350604500556.html

Chinese Military Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuW7JzF1dSs&feature=related


Chinese Women Military Unit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDtR2QybB58

China, Russia vow to advance military ties , they are creating a force to resist the reaction to their rejection of the dollar I think Next year when Iran takes control of OPEC .
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2010-11/09/c_13598156.htm
India in Talks to Buy 300 Russian Fighter Jets; Working Together to Build a New Generation Fighter Jet
http://en.rian.ru/news/20101007/160867582.html
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20101027/161108468.html

Russia signs India nuclear reactor deal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8561365.stm

Obama is Losing control of Economic National Security in oil price http://ning.it/dfRW1G http://ning.it/cxurAL

OPEC NATIONS CALLING FOR NEW WORLD ORDER !!!!!!!!
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=11931754

Russia to build nuclear power station in Venezuela
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCATRE69E1SD20101015
Flurry of laws boost Chavez's power in Venezuela , going after Critics with Speech censorship , we the people need to be alert in our USA ...use it or lose it
http://start.localnet.com/article.php?category=topstories&article=b5c95dd26d3f49dba9b15768a66c3e5c

Iran placing medium-range missiles in Venezuela; can reach the U.S.
I bet this is to resist the possible revolt from the USA in the event that OPEC rejects Dollar for OPEC OIL and the USA loses 30-40 % of its Oil Imports .

http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/10/iran-placing-medium-range-missiles-in-venezuela-can-reach-the-u-s/

Russia Buys 2 Warships from France on Christmas Eve
Click here for MORE

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/25/3101597.htm?section=justin


What do you think , are the American people Paying any Attention to this stuff , it is their Gravest Threat . Its time to get back to basics and tell Wall Street they are going to have to forget about the future of a International market and get ready to just be a USA market Platform , or leave the land of LIBERTY , and get ready to speak and Live under the Law of Sharia .

[hungry4food]

Everything they are doing is to bring control over the worlds Population growth , they been planning this time for 40 years www.green-agenda.com read the quotes .

When I started to research the ideas around this Term OVERPOPULATION , everything the Government Policies that were NOT making sense , like Health care , , to all the regulatory restrictions on supply-side economic growth fundamentals, once I entered the OVERPOPULATION term into my research everything Government Policy wise started to make sense . And while Googling this Terms and Other related terms to Population control , I found all the reasons why we are seeing the Government Bureaucracies wanting to take over the private sector economy .

http://www.population-security.org/11-CH3.html - 1971 Kissinger Agenda
Heres a List of Quotes by the Population control expert thats still actively advising Governments and our current President ; http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Henry_Kissinger , Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world. "Wherever a lessening of population pressures through reduced birth rates can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resource supplies and to the economic interests of the United States." heres more on the con job ; http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=85442 , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThfWVCfjVo&feature=player_embedded , this talks about the Trilateral Commission effect of the Plan for Population Control http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7735
The Ideology that makes up the advisory list in the Whitehouse is clear with an Agenda , Obama Returns to End-of-Life Plan That Caused Stir
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/us/politics/26death.html?_r=3&partner=rss&emc=rss

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1346357/World-faces-overpopulation-disaster-number-people-set-rise-75-million-EACH-YEAR.html

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/eye/overpopulation/effect.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7735
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_WEdJuNLw , Bill Gates discussing the need for a Choice over Old People or Teachers .

watch this Video which explains the meaning of supply shortage and what that means to Life ;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKP7KvUxHcM

We are Missing the true sense of supply-side economic trends .....


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41062817/ns/business-consumer_news
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/armageddon-wars-overpopulation-vs-global-warming/?src=busln
But it happened because they planned it , see these links again to reference the Plan and why ;

http://www.population-security.org/11-CH3.html - 1971 Kissinger Agenda

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/621153/cia_predicts_the_future_2015_water_resources/ http://www.metacafe.com/watch/621146/cia_predicts_the_future_2015_overpopulation/

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/01/seven-billion/kunzig-text/8

I have understood the population explosion intellectually for a long time. I came to understand it emotionally one stinking hot night in Delhi a couple of years ago… The temperature was well over 100, and the air was a haze of dust and smoke. The streets seemed alive with people. People eating, people washing, people sleeping. People visiting, arguing, and screaming. People thrusting their hands through the taxi window, begging. People defecating and urinating. People clinging to buses. People herding animals. People, people, people, people. —Paul Ehrlich

http://dieoff.org/page1.htm , this is the Home Page to the Technocrats scientific explanations on PEAK EARTH

The population bomb is still ticking 13 December 2009
http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20091211105819323
These guys wrote the stimulus bills and the direction those funds were to be implemented , and its basically went to Operate Government and Nothing to stimulate private sector capital Formation and expansion . Pauls argument with Agronomist Norman Borlaug is clearly one that needs future debate , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSlB1nW4S54&feature=player_embedded Ted Turner says there is a Problem and that this is causing Climate
Change , TOO Many people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVTGK1uYqJo&feature=player_embedded - the wildlands project



http://dieoff.org/page74.htm , see the top of this Link where its Lobby Firm is Located , and whats being discussed here is based off all the other pages of TECH Research on all pages below in the Home Page link .
But before we swallow the little red pill thats prescribed by the Medicare Panel maybe we should debate the truth about fertility in the world, https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html , what countries are REALLY Needing a reality Check about population sustainability before we forfeit our right to FREEDOM of Choice , FREEDOM period , just because of the Agenda that seems to be lacking in evidence that America is over populating the world !!!! From my view of this chart it seems if you extract Illegal Immigration the USA is a sustainable Population and in fact going negative in the near future with the baby-boomer era coming on . So who is B.Sing Who here and Why , when America is already a working Model for sustainable growth , all we need is some hope for risk takers and a recapitalization of the funding of a Renewable set of resources ???

[Sagebrush]

"What do you think , are the American people Paying any Attention to this stuff , it is their Gravest Threat."

Nope! And nether is the government. Hard to see anything else when your nose is buried in banker and corporate butts up to the eyebrows.

[hungry4food]

If we ARE RUNNING OUT OF THESE FINITE WATER RESOURCES , WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE APPROPRIATING FUNDING that and would restructure our tax code to be better incentive driven to form capital around the needed Infrastructure like installing desalination plants like India is doing , http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10819040 , and install a Pipeline infrastructure from coastline to Ogallala Aquifer sites in the Midwest to " Recharge the Aquifer" , http://www.marketskeptics.com/2010/04/time-water-running-out-for-americas.html , and this would set the stage for future developments of these types of Growing facilities , www.verticalfarm.com , to be built over a long term for the needs of alternative food productions as well as a Whole Host of other creative resource needs Like Bio Algae growing facilities;
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/biofuel/4213775

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLACcUN4fQ

http://www.marketskeptics.com/2010/04/time-water-running-out-for-americas.html , And design this to be part of the Clinton call for a pipeline from Canada through the Midwest to supply energy to the Refineries in the Louisiana area ad we the people would see some stability in our Primary Wealth creation markets come back for future generations . http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/125035-clinton-seems-poised-to-approve-transcanada-pipeline

This sure can be a Place to put some Bonds to work .......

It seems like Water shortage is the Most critical resource out of all the reading here , so we the people need to demand Debate on this and solutions like India is doing rather than this One world Order garbage , common Free Enterprise stand up and challenge these hard heads to a debate about alternatives like this India development see here ,

Why are we NOT doing like these nations Developing resources if water is in short supply ??? Device offers end to fresh water shortage

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2006-06/08/content_611105.htm



This is why we must take back control of our Monetary Policy by abolishing the Federal Reserve and restoring Article 1 Section 10 of the US Constitution , so we the people can have a greater say in how our Monetary Policy directs our Trade and domestic economic policies , and hold the Congress we elect accountable Before they allow things like this to destroy the USA and the World economies any more .
This is why we must End the Federal Reserve and restore the Monetary Policy in the hands of we the people so we can direct the funding towards what the majority of the people want to see done in their Country and How we the people can help other parts of the World . Its Been almost 100 years ago when the Monetary Policy was taken away from the people of the USA and its Congress and its High Time Article 1 Section 10 of the Sound Money rule was Restored for Liberty and Justice for All !!!! These Freaks of nature are all Freaked out about OVERPOPULATION in the World but lack the Wisdom to trust the People in the world to have the dignity to debate this physics topic in public and I say thats a Crime of Moral Equality thats Now become our Inequality in our world affairs , and the time has come for talking !!!!!


The descriptions below show a dark side of how the Elite are steering the societies around the world toward a theocracy instead of a Democracy , and doing it with the economic control of what everyone considers to be the Shadow Government of Finance , the Federal Reserve , and enough is enough !!!!!! Its along with the international influence of the united nations is what we the people of the world are being Oppressed by and we need to educate ourselves to this cabal and bring this to Debate so as to realize our demise and together take a Pledge to vote for True Democracy for the people of the world .
Ron Paul exposes United Nations plan to destroy US

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5xvMUW0Us8&NR=1

High Treason ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH-NLdcAhts&feature=related

What is Globalism ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYJsMUWVjTw&feature=player_embedded
And Seriously , Wouldn't this be an act of Treason against the US Constitution and the Sovereign rights of every citizen to access the life giving resources under the tree of Liberty ??
I think swearing to Up Hold the Constitution DID NOT come with Transferring this Most Vital Resource Out of control of the US People and over to the United Nations to DICTATE We the PEOPLES use of our Own water , did it ???
HOW CAN DOLLARS RETAIN INTRINSIC VALUE if Obama gives USA Water Control away to UNITED NATIONS ?
Please go to this website ; http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-stewardship-ocean-our-coasts-and-great-lakes , and scroll down to Sec.2 Policy(B-iii) you will read the line (iii)under "The United States shall promote this policy by": pursuing the United States' accession to the Law of the Sea Convention; the " Law of the SEA Convention " Which regulates ONLY " International Waters " what Obama wants to do Is place USA waterways into control under this UNITED NATION REGULATORY POLICY Which would Require the United States to Conform on USA Land to the Environmental Management and Commercial Developments of our Water Ways as How the United nations would DICTATE the USAGE LAWS, and If the USA did Not Abide by these Standards then UN NATO FORCES would Have the Right to Invade the USA and Enforce these LAWS , and if you read this link you can read how the International Water ways are regulated in all forms , this would Undermine the USA sovereignty , and would be Un-Constitutional as if we were a One World Order under UN Agenda 21 , see here ; http://ning.it/fNHqhY


We the People need to end the Federal Reserve and take back control of Our Monetary Policy and we decide what we will fund with Our Money . Things like this ...

Its time to Shut down the NUMBER 1 Funding agency that Funds EVERYONE BUT USA CITIZENS
this is a very interesting organization which is on a mission to restore the Integrity of the US economy and what sustains the American People's self Reliance , Liberty and FREEDOM to pursue the fruits of our labor . Please check them out here at this site . Thanks for your time .

http://www.suethefed.com/about-us , first we do this to Prosecute the Criminals .

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-833 , if we end the Federal Reserve we control the printing presses and we can then fund what needs to be done to restore the Life giving vital needs of the USA in a Independent manner that will place Intrinsic Value back behind the dollars worth , and fund these state banks though the commerce clause like this next link shows , http://oregoniansforastatebank.org/why-a-state-bank/


Sen. Lee Bright: SC should coin its own money , this would work along with the valuation of all vital resources be in a basket of commodities , and these market values be averaged and those values be what represents the value of the currency .....
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20110212/ARTICLES/102121020/1001/sports02?Title=Sen-Lee-Bright-SC-should-coin-own-money

[lynn]

Morons. All of them. Their time is coming fast. Professing themselves wise they became fools. We as citizens of the United States have allowed this to happen. Now we want it to stop. I fear that we are too late. But I pray that we are not. I don't believe that rioting is the way to get it done, rallies are the way and so is voting. Peaceful rallies only!!! We need to stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I see the end times before us as to when I don't know but we need to be prepared. I love my country and my fellow Americans born here or not. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!

[T.J.]

What a Moron !! People have lost their jobs and homes... The government doesn't care.... But our Tax dollars that are taken from our hard work and allocated to bail out whom ??? Hmmm.... We are looking into it ....We Don't Know..... IDIOTS !!!!

[hungry4food]

Urgent Grassroots Leaders Briefing Tuesday 2/22 @ 9 pm EST
RE: Wisconsin & Korea

Please join Jennifer Hulsey of American Grassroots Coalition and me for an
urgent grassroots leaders briefing onTuesday, Feb 22 at 9 pm EST.

(712) 432 3900
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We'll be talking about new developments on two issues:

1. WISCONSIN: We'll have an on-the-group report from state Sen. Leah Vukmir
to tell us what's really happening and what we can do to help them, as well as info from
the Governor.

2. OBAMA'S KOREAN TRADE DEAL: Michael Ostrolenk from the Liberty Coalition
will brief us on this NAFTA-like agreement that not only kills jobs, but also violates the
Constitution & U.S. sovereignty in favor of the UN & foreign tribunals. This is expected
to come to a fast track vote after the break this week.

(FYI-- union bosses support it even though their members oppose. This points out why
what's going on in WI is so important!)

Pasted below is a draft letter to the Republican Freshmen about the Korean deal.
Please take a look at it before the call -- we need to get as many groups signed
on as quickly as possible this week.



TakeBackWashington.org


kaserkes@att.net
206 841 0100 cell/text
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Coalition letter to Republican Freshmen:

Feb. 25, 2011

Dear Republican Freshman:



We are writing on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of grassroots members and activists represented by our organizations to express our opposition to language in President Obama’s Korean trade deal, and our concern about a letter you have already received from several of your Colleagues.



Reps. Reed and Berg recently circulated a letter to President Obama about trade for you and the other Freshmen Republicans to sign. Some of you who have signed the letter have told us that you only intended your signature to signal your general support for free trade, not your support for a specific agreement. We hope that is the case.



While we agree that expanding trade will increase economic growth here in the U.S and with the letter’s statement of commitment to developing a comprehensive trade agenda, we are alarmed that the letter suggests that the solution is passage of (among others) the Korean trade agreement (KORUS).



With all due respect to Reps. Reed and Berg, some of the language in the letter is misleading regarding the ultimate negative outcomes if KORUS is passed. The agreement will actually result in:



1. The loss of U.S. jobs

2. Increasing the U.S. trade deficit

3. Violation of U.S. property rights, Constitution & sovereignty.



It is a deeply flawed 1000-page patchwork of micro-management written by trade bureaucrats masquerading as “free trade.” Conservative estimates say this job-killer cost us at least 159,000 American jobs in the first seven years of its implementation and add $16.7 billion to our trade deficit with South Korea.



But even more alarming is the loss of U.S. sovereignty and autonomy to the foreign tribunals of the United Nations and the World Bank required by this agreement, and the extraordinary special privileges granted to foreign corporations and their investors.



Hundreds of foreign-owned establishments across the United States would obtain expansive new rights to demand taxpayer compensation through challenges of U.S. federal, and state laws in foreign tribunals. This threat allows even companies from China or North Korea to use a U.S. or Korean subsidiary to challenge U.S. laws in the U.N. As in NAFTA, the investor rights provisions give foreign corporations the power to demand payment from the U.S. when public interest protections affect a company’s commercial interests



And even though the U.S. has imposed sanctions on North Korea, this deal allows billions of dollars of U.S currency to flow directly into North Korea through the Kaesong Industrial Complex -a free trade zone between North and South Korea.



Some U.S. industry trade organizations that are pushing for passage have not been completely transparent in stating the reasons for their support. While it’s true that they do business in the U.S., almost every one of the trade group leaders is in actuality part of a huge multi-national corporation, with transnational interests that go well beyond our borders and a concern for just U.S. jobs and economy.



We will not stand by and allow this deal to sacrifice the Constitution to a web of international agreements and organizations. Simply, if free trade comes with a price tag of the Constitution, then the cost is too high.



President Obama’s Korean trade agreement is a bad deal for the U.S., and Congress must kill this bill when it is introduced. A vote against KORUS is a vote FOR U.S. jobs, U.S. sovereignty, and the sanctity of the U.S. Constitution.



We ask that you show your support by signing and returning the statement below.

Sincerely,



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YES! I believe that the expansion of true free trade with our partners is a key element of a U.S. comprehensive trade agenda, but all trade agreements approved by Congress must preserve U.S. sovereignty and conform to the Constitution."



______________________________________________________

Signature of Member Date

[Max Henry]

Get real! Greenspan, Bernanke, Summers etc. They are all Zionist Jews as is much of Amerca's senior adminstiration! Grow up America and do something about your control by only 2% of your popn. Isreal has yoaur lost rillions and they use it to commit genocide upon the Palestinian people and fcuk up the world.

[Ken Pappas]

We are at a point in this country that the people need to rise above the government that has gone against the people and our freedom as our forefathers have founded when we got our freedom from the British. We will soon see people in America take to the streets as we are seeing in Northern Africa and other countries demanding leaders to step down and people taking their country back. I am 100% for this! I am tired of paying taxes, more than half of what I make and watch it go places that nobody can account for and seeing people in these positions that don't know crap about their jobs. It's time to DEMAND change. Seems Obama's promise to the people will not happen. The people need to make it happen and I ask all reading this to finally wake up, call your senator's and demand their resignations now. We must get our government and our country back on track. We are way out of control.

[Bloodhound]

Elizabeth Coleman seems like a very incompetent person, has no idea what is going on. Is she an Obama appointee? That would certainly answer as to why she is so incompetent. Seems like his whole Legion of Demon Adminstration is filled with incompetent Idiots, also his appointees.

[Nehemiah]

I am afraid that most of the responses indicate that they do not know who the Fed Reserve really is. It is an organization that tells the US Treasury to print billions of dollars without anything to back it up.. It is basically run by foreign banks not our banks and money system. We were enslaved to Europe with legislation that was passed in 1922. We lost our freedoms in one day. Nehemiah

[Mustherland]

WTF!!!!!!

[JR]

THE OLD ADAGE ---- IF YOU CAN'T DAZZLE THEM WITH BRILLIANCE, BAFFLE THEM WITH BULLSHIT, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT SHE,S DOING. (THAT'S ALL SHE KNOWS HOW TO DO).

[bmoore99]

Sorry Bloodhound, but Elizabeth A. Coleman was appointed Inspector General for the Federal Reserve Board effective May 6, 2007. Ms. Coleman joined the Board's OIG in 1989 as a senior auditor. She was promoted to program manager in 1999 and to senior program manager in 2001. She was appointed to the official staff in 2004, as the Assistant Inspector General for Communications and Quality Assurance. Seems she was appointed under George W. Bush., so you can't blame President Obama or the current administration for this one! Source: http://www.federalreserve.gov/oig/oig_bio.htm

[RLD]

Holy Crap!!!! And how much does she get paid to NOT do her job and answer a direct question??????????

[oregontrackers]

Send this letter and ask all to send it to your senator and

house members
that our publicly employed by legal Republic Americans to honor their
ORIGINAL US Constitutional LAW oath or vote them out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE
This is not
spam

I want to ask each
of

you to consider doing the
following when you are

talking on the phone to
any US customer service

representative that is

based in a foreign country (like India,Canada,China,
Philippines,England, any others that
was
missed ). I have done this twice and it
works! Any time you
call an 800 number (for a credit card, banking,

charter communications, health insurance, insurance, you
name it) and
you are transferred to a representative (like in
India), please consider
doing the following:



After you connect and you realize that the customer service representative is not from the USA (you can always ask if you are not sure about the accent), please very politely (very politely - this is not about trashing other cultures) say, "I'd like to speak to a customer service representative in the United States of America." The rep might suggest talking to his/her manager, but, again, politely say, "Thank you, but I'd like to speak to a customer service representative in the USA ." YOU WILL BE IMMEDIATELY CONNECTED to a rep in the USA . It only takes less than one minute to have your call re-directed to the USA . Tonight when I got redirected to a USA rep, I asked again to make sure - and yes, she was from Fort Lauderdale our were on American soil . you can ask to call back to be sure.

Imagine if tomorrow, every US citizen who has to make such a call and then requests a US rep, imagine how that would ultimately impact the number of US jobs that would need to be created ASAP. Imagine what would happen if every US citizen insisted on talking to only US phone reps from this day on. If I tell 10 people to consider this and you tell 10 people to consider doing this - see what I mean...it becomes an exercise in viral marketing 101.

Remember - the goal here is to restore jobs back here at home - not to be abrupt or rude to a foreign phone rep. If you agree, please tell 10 people you know and tell them to tell 10 people they know....etc...etc...

Sad but all too true!!!!!



Now you know what is wrong with this country…HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2009,,
This is the change of the voters

<<<SEE WHAT Democracy IS and has done>>>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXuGIpsdE0&feature=player_embedded

Now you know what is wrong with the country…


http://constitution.org/fed/federa48.htm

HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2009

[]

Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

[]
2009 - School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.





Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
[]
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins.. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

[]
2009 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.







Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not sit still in class, he disrupts other students.
[]
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.







Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt..

[]
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.







Scenario 5:
[]

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.


[]
2009 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.







Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.


1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.


[]

2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.







Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
[]
1957 - Ants die.

[]
2009 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated.
Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly or buy a gun again.







Scenario 8:

Wally falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Nancy. Nancy hugs him to comfort him.

[]
1957 - In a short time, Wally feels better and goes on playing.


2009 - Nancy is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison... Wally undergoes 5 years of therapy.



British Democrats and Selected Elected and public employees unions paid for by Legal Americans/
SEND ALL ILLEGALS IS THE ONLY WAYS TO SAVE THE COUNTRY CALLED THE USA AND YOUR EMPLOYMENT,,PLEASE TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF


Watch the truth,, About The Illegal MAN OBAMA.

Has Mr Obama committed treason what do you think.

1.
Obama Admits: “I am Not an American Citizen. I came from ...
Watch and hear Obama admit he is not an American citizen. Better share this now, it’s likely to be pulled off You Tube as fast as the liberal minions can get it ...
freedomtroopers.org/2010/07/06/obama-admits-i-am-not-an... - Cached

VIDEO AND AUDIO TAPE ALL ELECTED AND PUBLIC EMPLOYEES REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE THE EMPLOYER,,We the none union member our the Government,
We have nothing to gain for DEBT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXuGIpsdE0&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0&feature=related
Must watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ-vqiBvMo8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIngAmbelxc&feature=sub

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4FqVRWgrNw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfUajhL24I&annotation_id=annotation_269418&feature=iv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4uDaBdYv0&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E&feature=fvw
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200910220013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei_i-vuxhh8&NR=1
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/069290-2010-05-24-dont-tread-on-me-rise-of-the-republic-full-movie.htm?EdNo=001&From=

http://www.youtube.com/
We are sending the IRS tax dollars of American workers earning
minimum wage that need medical care and can not get it to foreign
Countries that already have National Health care like Israel etc. etc.

Tell them to Stop All Foreign aid financial and military to all
Countries and Stop all immigration legal and illegal to the USA for the
next ten years, While we catch our breath or the USA is going to go
under as a Country and not only will no other countries give us aid when
we collapse, But many will invade and steal what is left of our Country
! (China is dong it with fair trade zone Chinese Cities with Chinese
immigrant workers now in all 50 States)
Egypt is one of the larger recipients of yearly U.S. financial aid and
you see the Egyptian Government and Citizens now telling the USA to stay
out of their business ! and the Federal Government will still keep
giving Egypt Billions of dollars to subsidise their "Mainly Tourism
financed economy"
than most U.S. states receive from the Federal Government.
Our retired seniors living on a fixed income choose between eating,
heating their houses or apartments, or getting needed prescriptions
while our government pours HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
into arming foreign countries.
We have thousands of adaptable children, and single parents,
unmarried couples and gay couples who would like to adopt these
children,
but are told they can't adopt them -- and then these children are shoved
aside to make room for the adoption of foreign orphans.

AMERICA:
a country where we have homeless people outdoors,
without shelter during the coldest winter since 1977-78;
children without a decent place to live and who going to bed hungry,
elderly who are choosing between eating, staying warm or buying needed
medicines, and mentally ill without treatment...
Were is our public lands open for legal BORN Americans for
subsistence hunting and fishing Where;s our community food land by food
shares they get the funding????

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Eyes of Fire - Fornication under christian king
F.U.C.K. - Fornication Under Consent of the King (This indicated in England during the middle ages you could only have intercourse if the King first gave you permission.
www.eyesoffire.net/demo/fornication.html - Cached
2. You have to pay the state for the privilege for your family

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What does 'Fornication Under Consent of the King' mean?
Nearly all these 'acronym' explanations for common words such as f*** and sh** are nonsense. Any good reference dictionary will tell you the origin of such words ...
wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_ %27Fornication_Under... - Cached

With out means www.oregontrackers.com>>>>>

This should hit every email inbox to show how stupid we have become!!
At The lack of teaching our children responsible and moderation. Its easier to pass the debt , control
and lost of Constitutional
Republic freedom on.
Is This called Marshall Law. Remember the USA went to wars to protect us from this kind of control to your life.Don't sign for
debt.
I would not sign my constitutional born rights two or more generation <Only apply>away on any documents,,including medical don't sign away your rights/
I wright I do not give my constitutional BORN rights to any one,Only to some one you trust with you life, an that is hard to find.
By the way the Constitutional rights apply to Americans only two are more generations,Illegals have no rights on American soil. STOP being divided for the Elected and public employees unions.This includes closing American public owned hunting fishing grounds. to control your life, by commerce.
Making food the new American privilege from the DEMOCRACY.
PUBLIC LANDS SHOULD FLOURISH WITH PUBLIC AMERICAN FOOD YES FREE, SUBSISTENCE ONLY AS IT IS LEGAL AMERICANS BORN RIGHTS.



Watch this on
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread637364/pg1

Lets not forget the ODFW failed in raising Legal Oregonians

food resources. As their original Public employment proscribes

1899.. LOOK on www.oregontrackers.com


Fallen dead birds eaten by America's homeless
Examiner.com
"The dead birds in this incident were exclusively pigeons, but for the homelesses, they were food. One man had already cleaned his fowl and was arguing with ...
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Legal Americans Stand BY

http://www.delalbright.com/Articles/rs2477.htm

http://www.oregonriverrights.com/admissions_act.htm
Oregon Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

* Background|
* Negotiations|
* Treaty definitions|
* See also

The Oregon Treaty is a treaty between the United Kingdom and the United States that was signed on June 15, 1846, in Washington, D.C. The treaty brought an end to the Oregon boundary...
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Read about your true right in legal American court system


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Pamela Gaston -- Sui Juris; The Truth In The Record
Additional Title. SUI JURIS; THE TRUTH IN THE RECORD . By Pamela Gaston. Sui Juris is the book teaching People how to defend themselves in today's courtrooms ...
www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/ guest1.htm - Cached
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SUI JURIS - THE TRUTH IN THE RECORD - Gaston
Especially see the Back Cover: SUI JURIS. THE TRUTH IN THE RECORD A PROCESS FOR THE PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE COURTS. By Pamela and Will Gaston
familyrights.us/bin/sui_juris - Cached



WTF is going on here?! Congresswoman Giffords was subscribed to her killer on YouTube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2oE69WimY&feature=player_embedded
>>>>>> please give gift of $5,00 to legal disabled.
I was injured on the job,With out means www.oregontrackers.com>>>>>

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1593. Benjamin Franklin (1706-90). Respectfully Quoted: A ...
A republic replied the Doctor if you can keep it.” When McHenry’s notes were included in The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, ed. Max Farrand, vol. 3 ...
www.bartleby.com/73/1593.html - Cached





http://www.infowars.com/iphone-snitch-network-launched/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/conspiracy-theory-with-jesse-ventura-police-state.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4uDaBdYv0&NR=1

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Jesse Ventura’s “Police State” Episode featuring Alex ...
Several days ago, truTV decided to wipe clean of any mention of the bombshell “Police State” episode. At one Time the website read: “Police State”
www.wearechange.org/?p=4665 - Cached
2.
Jesse Ventura on Fusion Centers, FEMA Camps and the Police State
Diary: Former Governor Jesse Ventura goes where few others would dare with the latest installment of his TruTv series 'Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura'. Into the ...
www.opednews.com/Diary/Jesse-Ventura-on- Fusion-Ce-by-Ed... - Cach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4FqVRWgrNw&feature=related
Opinion for GREENE V. CAMRETA, 06-35333
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0&feature=related
http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1011PSIENDVD/EPSILCBS/PR?o=230996&s=233622&u=42797961&l=197931&r=Milo
>>>>>> please give a gift of $5,00 to the disabled

With out means www.oregontrackers.com>>>>>

PEACE AND GOD BLESS
Opinion for GREENE V. CAMRETA, 06-35333
http://www.patriotnetwork.info/Citizens_rule_book.htm
http://www.oregontrackers.com/general_comment.htm
http://www.oregontrackers.com/2007%20House%20Bills/index.htm
Destroying Americans rights on public owned land,
For personal gain, of The Elected and public Employees unions.


Disarming The legal American and the USA
POSTED IN: News and Culture
Turn in a Gun This Saturday, At Least Get a Burger
Got unwanted firearms laying around?<<,Them Give them to your
American neighbors Stay protected>> You can turn them in this Saturday, Dec. 18 at the annual Gun Turn-In event sponsored...
BY Stacy Brownhill Thursday 10:00 AM 3

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Driver Licensing vs. the Right to Travel
... takes on the burdens of the contract and bargains away ... Kent v. Dulles (1958) 357 US 116, 125. "The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not ...
www.barefootsworld.net/sui_juris/right_ to_travel.html - Cached

Read my web site www.oregontrackers.com
Opinion for GREENE V. CAMRETA, 06-35333

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2001 SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
Ed Johnston. Citizen. Toledo, Oregon. Testifies in favor of the bill. Says that these surveys have been placed in both of his children’s permanent records.
arcweb.sos.state.or.us/.../senate/ education/SED021_1.htm - Cached



Watch the truth,This is not spam but real facts, About The Illegal MAN OBAMA.


British who do business and Selected American Elected and public employees unions paid for by Legal Americans taxes/ Dividend use as our constitutional laws superseded that our for-father wrote in 1775l What if the tea-party of 1776 all about..
SEND ALL ILLEGALS IS THE ONLY WAYS TO SAVE THE COUNTRY CALLED THE USA AND YOUR EMPLOYMENT,,PLEASE TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF
An to day the disabled and elderly have rights that our ignored by the our elected and public employees.
Raising-cost that has no representation.
But the greed of MONEY.
Turning us back to the KING GAME and into self slavery render unto
ceazer what Is his.
What is the story of Historicity of Jesus
STOP SELLING PUBLIC LAND For OUR SUBSISTENCE
Legal American HUNTING AND FISHERIES.

Watch the truth,, About The Illegal MAN OBAMA.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXuGIpsdE0&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4FqVRWgrNw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfUajhL24I&annotation_id=annotation_269418&feature=iv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4uDaBdYv0&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E&feature=fvw

Watch this one

http://www.prothink.tv/?cat=16

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/069290-2010-05-24-dont-tread-on-me-rise-of-the-republic-full-movie.htm?EdNo=001&From=

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Case Filed in Court Challenges Barack Obama's Citizenship
[Aug 23, 2008] Case Filed in Court Challenges Barack Obama's Citizenship ... (Guest) 03/23/2010 Idon't care if BHO was born on the White ... ~ by Nicholos Gene Poma B.S. ( 24 comments )
www.associatedcontent.com/article/ 977502/case_filed_in... - Cached
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Opponents of Barack Obama's presidency claim small court ...
Supporters of a case that disputes the legitimacy of Barack Obama's presidency claimed a small victory today when U.S. District Judge David O. Carter told them to fix ...
latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/07/ opponents-of... - Cached


Barack Obama Admits He Is Illegal - Video Results
Play VideoEric Holder Admits He Didn't Read Arizona Law Before Criticizing ... Play VideoConservatives express outrage about charges that their attacks ... Play VideoScarborough, Buchanan mislead on Obama's tax plan | Media Matters ...


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Court won't review Obama's eligibility to serve ...
[Dec 8, 2008] ... from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ... If the Supreme Court decides not to consider the case, Donofrio said there "won't be any ...
www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ chi-obama-birth... - Cached


YouTube - Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: 9/11 **
http://www.facebook.com/ConspiracyThe... The idea that a missile or explosives—not a hijacked jetliner—damaged the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 seems ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9tvrYg85qU - Proxy - Highlight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

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IRS, 16th Amendment, Never Ratified, so Why Pay?
(US District Court Judge, James C. Fox, 2003) The 16th Amendment states;--"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived ...
thesop.org/story/politics/2010/01/30/ irs-16th-amendment... - Cached
2.
YouTube - America Freedom To Fascism Part 1
Inaccuracies: Aaron Russo reads a quote attributed to U.S. District Judge James C. Fox: "If you...examined [The 16th Amendment] carefully, you would find that a ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx3HGjzWNHE - Cached
.Play Video

How can the US Attornies represent a criminal matter inbehalf of a tax paid to a private banking corporation??? The FRB cannot claim any injury/standing-a necessary elemnt to any criminal/civil action.

I thought this was over in 2005, I am not certain of the dates-just the FACTS as neither Congress nor a President can confer any taxing, law making nor police powers to a non gov't, private corporation

Why do these tax gurus & lawyers argue Code 26 instead of this act being UNconstnl-wrongful taking of private property-is this the power of the secret societies referred to by JFK & why Judge Mahoney they were murdered???
credit river decision

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No Conspiracy: IRS Agent Joe Banister Acquitted (continued)
by JOHN TURNER
No Conspiracy: IRS Agent Joe Banister Acquitted

The rial began on Tuesday, June 14. The charges were

1) Conspiracy to Defraud the United States and

2) Aiding and Abetting in the Preparation of False and Fraudulent Returns.

The government alleged that Banister had impeded and impaired the ascertainment, assessment, and collection of tax, and that he had criminally conspired with Al Thompson in so doing.

The charges were related to Joe's association with Redding businessman, Walter "Al" Thompson, where Joe, as a CPA, prepared amended Form 1040X tax returns for three tax years. The returns were a calculated protest and every effort was made by Al and Joe to adhere to written and verbal guidance they sought and received from the IRS.

Key evidence in the trial were two video tapes. The first tape was about 2 hours in length had been filmed at Cencal Aviation, the business of Walter "Al" Thompson, in July of 2000.

Mr. Thompson had researched the law and concluded that he was not an "employer" as defined within Title 26, the income tax code, nor was he required to withhold money from the paychecks of those who worked for him. He called this meeting so as to inform his 25 employees of this decision to stop withholding from their paychecks, and invited Joe Banister, former IRS CID special agent, to assist him in communicating to the employees.

Also in attendance was Mr. David Cay Johnson, 30 year veteran of covering tax issues and writing articles for the New York Times, whom he had invited only the day before.

Of interest, was the fact that this tape was introduced into evidence by the government, not Mr. Banister. Viewing the content of the tape, which greatly favored Mr. Banister, one would question the judgment of the government.

What had happened in pre-trial wrangling was that the government had lost their bid to keep that piece of evidence out. In a strategy that is common for such circumstances, the government probably thought that they could do 2 things to try and minimize the evidence: be the one that introduced the evidence instead of the defense and do it early in the trial so that the jury might forget about it as the trial concluded.

Whatever it was, their strategy failed. The so-called "Cencal Aviation" tape was replayed for the jury during their deliberation after all evidence was in, and in post-verdict interviews, jurors who would consent to talk with us admitted that this evidence was extremely important in persuading the jury's decision for Mr. Banister.

The second viewing was key in swinging the remaining 4-5 jurors who still were not voting to acquit. The tape covered a lot of ground but a partial summary is as follows: Joe Banister explained how he came to be employed by the IRS and what caused him to have to resign nearly 6 years later. He emphasized that he was not there to tell people what to think or what to do but merely to tell them what he learned and what he was doing about his discovery. "What he was doing" included asking the government to demonstrate the error of his analysis which started with the 95-page report he submitted to his supervisor, Robert Gorini, with the request that it go to the "top" for a response. The response was administrative leave and inevitable resignation and the reply that the government would not address his questions.

The other tape was a deposition of Banister's former manager, Robert Gorini, in Washington, D.C., who retired from the IRS in early 2000, less than a year after Mr. Banister resigned from the IRS by Banister's attorney, Jeffrey Dickstein.

Mr. Gorini had nothing but good things to say about Joe's character, his work as a criminal IRS investigator and many other areas. The very last question by Dickstein was to ask Gorini if he could name the law that required Mr. Banister to file income tax returns and pay income tax, to which Mr. Gorini replied that he could not. This tape was a huge credibility boost for Joe with the jury.

A key element in the charges was "willfulness" and the jury unanimously concurred that Joe, right or wrong in his beliefs about aspects of tax law administration, truly believed the things which caused him to resign.

A highly interesting item of a technical nature was concerning the discussion on the subject of Rule 29 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

At the conclusion of the government's presentation of their case, the defense moved for dismissal of all charges and effectively and persuasively convinced the judge that the government had failed to make it's case, that is, it had failed to provide evidence to prove it's case that matched the charges against Banister.

It appeared that the judge was very tempted to dismiss and might very well do so, however, he ultimately displayed his unwillingness to allow the government to be in a position of losing with no chance of appeal. The judge knew this was a very high-profile case with potentially serious adverse effects for the government should it lose. The government's case was astoundingly weak and it was apparent that the proper thing to do was to dismiss charges. But that did not happen.

The defense began arguing early Friday morning and played the "Gorini" deposition to start. The judge gave a 15 minute recess and upon everyone's return, directed Mr. Dickstein proceed. Mr. Dickstein shocked everyone by quietly announcing, "Your Honor, the defense rests".

The judge stared at him for several seconds as if speechless. Finally, he inquired as to why Dickstein, knowing the calendar of events, had not given the court a "heads up" about this short defense and premature resting.

The judge knew that the defense was potentially going to present witnesses and expected Mr. Banister would probably testify on his own behalf. Now, with the defense suddenly and unexpected completed, there was a hole in the day's schedule. No problem.

There were more "Rule 29" issues to discuss outside the presence of the jury and the all-important need to come to agreement on the subject of jury instructions. The jury had been dismissed until Tuesay morning so as to allow plenty of time to complete business before bringing the jury back.

Friday afternoon, June 17, had to be excruciatingly painful for the government attorney's. The jury instructions they presented to Judge Shubb were so poor that he gave them a severe tongue-lashing and pleaded with them, "help me out". While not in the presence of the jury, he said he would be embarrassed if he had to give those instructions to the jury. He also said, "I hope you have been humbled enough by my earlier comments to become motivated to do better."

Judge Shubb said many interesting, perhaps curious things during the week. Once, he uttered, "the law is uncattorney Dickstein softly suggested to the judge that he should not be certain". Another time he declared that no one reads the Internal Revenue Code from cover to cover and that anyone who claims to have done that should be in the "nuthouse".

When so quick to believe that (implying that he has read the entire Code), the judge retorted that anyone claiming to have read the Code from cover to cover should be placed in an insane asylum. The judge, prone to temper tantrums and shouting when someone displeased him, all in all, was fair in the conduct of the trial, occasionally displaying a sense /f humor. He saw two very skilled, well-prepared defense lawyers and his disappointment in the performance of the government attorneys was apparent at certain times.

Brilliant legal work by the law office of Robert Bernhoft was also key in Mr. Banister's acquittal. The trial lawyers, Robert Bernhoft, a Constitution Party member from Wisconsin, and Mr. Jeffrey Dickstein, a seasoned lawyer well-versed in criminal tax defense, recognized the complete lack of evidence to support the government's case and wisely decided that it would add nothing to have witnesses and Banister testify.

In any event, they felt they were well positioned should the need to appeal later come into play. I am certain that the government was counting on the opportunity to bolster their weak case by being able to fish around with Mr. Banister on the stand.

It didn't happen and the two video tapes entered into evidence overwhelmingly portrayed Banister as credible, honest, intelligent, sincere, honorable, and believable.

Mr. Banister's courtroom supporters were numerous. He enjoyed the comfort of many family members, as well as supporters who travelled from as far away as Georgia and Florida, and have come to see him as a patriot and hero for his courageous stand. Mr. Banister and his family have felt the stress of Joe having to prepare for his defense and found great joy and relief at the news of his aquittal.

Joseph Banister's efforts to get the government to answer his concerns and questions about the income tax include several trips to the nation's capital, where he has often been accompanied by many others who hold simiar views, including former IRS revenue agent Sherry Jackson and former IRS revenue officer John Turner. He is a plaintiff in a class-action lawsuit, which has been organized by Robert Schulz, founder of "We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education, Inc.", of Queensbury, New York (www.givemeliberty.org).

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and and only legitimate object of good government."-- Thomas Jefferson
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HAARP causing worldwide earthquakes
Posted: January 14, 2011 by jimmyprophet in HAARP, News Articles
Tags: earthquakes, HAARP, volcano, weather, documentary

These are the websites that we have to view constantly to register these seismic activities cause it’s going to get worse, including the awakening of many dormant volcanoes. We aint seen nothing yet!!

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

http://www.liss.org/

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diversified Metals Homepage
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BS-the court lacks Subject Matter Jurisdiction;

This $$$ is used in world wide terrist ops & fUNding the NAU to NWO
n3 The Internal Revenue Service, and not the United States, was originally named as defendant in this action. However, the United States is correct that the Internal Revenue Service has no capacity to sue or be sued. Blackmar v. Guerre, 342 U.S. 512, 514, 96 L. Ed. 534, 72 S. Ct. 410 (1952). Therefore, the United States is properly substituted for the Internal Revenue Service in this action. This is a major fraud, as the Court granted MSJ to the US, where did the tax $$$ go as taxes r paid to the IRS-a non gov't entity which is nothing but a brutal debt collector for the zionists FRB

IRS Collected $2.4 Trillion in FY 2007
As in recent years, about $350 billion in taxes due ... IRS spent an average of 40 cents to collect each $100 of taxes, the lowest cost per $100 in seven years. The IRS ...
usgovinfo.about.com/b/2008/03/31/irs-​collected-24... - Cached



9 TRILLION Dollars Missing from Federal Reserve,Fed Inspector ... "missing" or buried in zionist banks

GOP Senator wants to impose nazi-style (not a word I use lightly) secret police.

Senator wants to protect nazi-style secret police from the law.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bill-would-protect-big-sis-citizen-spies-from-lawsuits.html


Will we finally find out what Obama's friends are up to?
Is SEIU Working With Hamas And FARC? - Big Government




I know everything that could be said about the Tucson shooting has been said, but here's sosmething else of more importance than the life of a single Congresswoman. Here is proof that evidence has been manufactured to push a tyranical agenda on the federal level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2oE69WimY&feature=player_embedded

WTF is going on here?! Congresswoman Giffords was subscribed to her killer on YouTube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2oE69WimY&feature=player_embedded
Top U.S. Official Murdered-Threated Exposure Bio-Weapons Ark. Bird Kill?
China to build self-sustained City in a Amerika with Chinese Labor and Inhabitant (Video)
The article states, the Govenor of Idaho is inviting the communist Chinese to build a city of there own in the Boise area.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/12/31/1472023/chinese-company-eyes-boise.html
Chemical Bio Expert Murdered After Arkansas Bird Catastrophe
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TUCSON: EMBLEMATIC, ONLY THE CONSTITUTION CAN SAVE US FROM OURSELVES
01-12-2011 Is the root cause of this nation's escalating political vitriol our failure to embrace the Constitution? Can controversies involving government violations of the Constitution be settled in the <i>political</i> arena?

DRIVERS LICENSE VS RIGHT TO TRAVEL

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Right to Travel

DESPITE ACTIONS OF POLICE AND LOCAL COURTS,
HIGHER COURTS HAVE RULED THAT AMERICAN CITIZENS
HAVE A RIGHT TO TRAVEL WITHOUT STATE PERMITS

By Jack McLamb (from Aid & Abet Newsletter)

For years professionals within the criminal justice system have acted on the belief that traveling by motor vehicle was a privilege that was given to a citizen only after approval by their state government in the form of a permit or license to drive. In other words, the individual must be granted the privilege before his use of the state highways was considered legal. Legislators, police officers, and court officials are becoming aware that there are court decisions that disprove the belief that driving is a privilege and therefore requires government approval in the form of a license. Presented here are some of these cases:

CASE #1: "The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.

CASE #2: "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.

It could not be stated more directly or conclusively that citizens of the states have a common law right to travel, without approval or restriction (license), and that this right is protected under the U.S Constitution.

CASE #3: "The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

CASE #4: "The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.

As hard as it is for those of us in law enforcement to believe, there is no room for speculation in these court decisions. American citizens do indeed have the inalienable right to use the roadways unrestricted in any manner as long as they are not damaging or violating property or rights of others. Government -- in requiring the people to obtain drivers licenses, and accepting vehicle inspections and DUI/DWI roadblocks without question -- is restricting, and therefore violating, the people's common law right to travel.

Is this a new legal interpretation on this subject? Apparently not. This means that the beliefs and opinions our state legislators, the courts, and those in law enforcement have acted upon for years have been in error. Researchers armed with actual facts state that case law is overwhelming in determining that to restrict the movement of the individual in the free exercise of his right to travel is a serious breach of those freedoms secured by the U.S. Constitution and most state constitutions. That means it is unlawful. The revelation that the American citizen has always had the inalienable right to travel raises profound questions for those`who are involved in making and enforcing state laws. The first of such questions may very well be this: If the stat%s have been enforcing laws that are unconstitutional on their face, it would seem that there must be some way that a state can legally put restrictions -- such as licensing requirements, mandatory insurance, vehicle registration, vehicle inspections to name just a few -- on a citizen's constitutionally protected rights. Is that so?

For the answer, let us look, once again, to the U.S. courts for a determination of this very issue. In Hertado v. California, 110 US 516, the U.S Supreme Court states very plainly:

"The state cannot diminish rights of the people."

And in Bennett`v. Boggs, 1 Baldw 60,

"Statutes that violate the plain and obvious principles of commo. right and common reason are null and void."

Would we not say that these judicial decisions are straight to the point -- that there is no lawful method for government to put restrictions or limitations on rights belonging to the people? Other cases are even more straight forward:

"The assertion of federal rights, when plainly and reasonably made, is not to be defeated under the name of local practice." Davis v. ` Wechsler, 263 US 22, at 24

"Whe2e rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them." Miranda v. Arizona, 384 US 436, 491.

"The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime." Miller v. US, 230 F 486, at 489.

There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional rights." Sherer v. Cullen, 481 F 946

We could go on, quoting court decision after court decision; however, the Constitution itself answers our question - Can a government legally put restrictions on the rights of the American people at anytime, for any reason? The answer is found in Article Six of the U.S. Constitution:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof;...shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or laws of any State to the Contrary not one word withstanding."

In the same Article, it says just who within our government that is bound by this Supreme Law:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution..."

Here's an interesting question. Is ignorance of these laws an excuse for such acts by officials? If we are to follow the letter of the law, (as we are sworn to do), this places officials who involve themselves in such unlawful acts in an unfavorable legal situation. For it is a felony and federal crime to violate or deprive citizens of their constitutionally protected rights. Our system of law dictates that there are only two ways to legally remove a right belonging to the people. These are:

1. by lawfully amending the constitution, or
2. by a person knowingly waiving a particular right.
3.

Some of the confusion on our present system has arisen because many millions of people have waived their right to travel unrestricted and volunteered into the jurisdiction of the state. Those who have knowingly given up these rights are now legally regulated by state law and must acquire the proper permits and registrations. There are basically two groups of people in this category:

More- http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/right2travel.shtml

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Raymond Karczewski
DRIVERS LICENSE VS RIGHT TO TRAVEL
Thu Mar 29 14:52:35 2001


DRIVERS LICENSE VS RIGHT TO TRAVEL

George Lee McElroy wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

rk: I received Mr. McElroy's letter to DA Clay Johnson (see below) and was given permission to repost it. May I suggest readers also repost it widely for whomever has the intelligence to understand the conversion of our Unalienable Rights and Freedoms into the slavery of governmental "Privilege" where an Inalienable Right can be transformed into a Crime.

rk: It would seem that some people are waking up to this Insurance Industry/Government Bureaucracy-instigated Driver's Licensing "Construction Fraud" long perpetrated upon the gullible American People by its mind-controlling government.

rk: It appears that we are no longer a nation governed by Constitutional Law, but have slowly and incrementlly through mind control techniques (Propaganda) become a nation controlled and dominated by bureaucratic regulation which operates under the shadowy "color" of law. Such could not happen if the public "Traveller" who travels the public roadways in the "usual conveyance of the day," i.e., private automobile, for nonbusiness, private purposes were not coerced into entering a contract without full disclosure of the contract's terms being made at the
time. Signing that contract without full knowledge of its terms requires one to waive one's Constitutional Rights and accept the full terms of a regulatory contract with penalties and sanctions designed to police the actions and conduct of those who use the public roadways for business or profit.

rk: It is through such nefarious manipulations that confusion regarding the relationship of a people and with its government emerges, wherein the Master -- the people -- become the Servant, and the Servant -- the government -- becomes the Master. Such is the transformation from Freedom to Tyranny when Rights are converted into Privileges.

rk: Here in the United States, isn't it time we took back control of our country? Isn't it time we took back control over our lives?

rk: How many reading this have been damaged psychologically and financially by such fraud through fines, incarceration, and or coercive participation in mental health program followup, and are up for joining in and launching a Class Action Law Suit against the government in this issue?

rk; Yes, folks, the curtain has been lifted and it's about time YOU PAID ATTENTION to the WIZARD BEHIND IT.

Ray Karczewski

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Clay Johnson
District Attorney
Josephine County, Oregon
500 N.W. 6th Street / Courthouse
Grants Pass, Oregon 97526

Mr. Johnson,

Free people have a right to travel on the roads that are provided by their servants for that purpose, using ordinary transportation of the day. Licensing cannot be required of free people because taking on the restrictions of a license requires the surrender of a right. The drivers license can be required of people who use the highways for trade, commerce or hire; that is, if they earn their living on the road, and they use extraordinary machines on the roads. In other words, if you are not using the highways for profit, you cannot be required to have a drivers license.

Personal liberty consists of the power of locomotion, of changing situations, of removing one's person to whatever place one's inclination may direct, without imprisonment or restraint unless by due process of law. Streets and highways are established and maintained for the purpose of travel and transportation by the public. Such travel may be for business or pleasure. The use of the highways for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common and fundamental right of which the public and the individual cannot be rightfully deprived.
Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation that would abrogate them. The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime. There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of Constitutional rights. I believe a great fraud has been perpetrated against the free people of the United States of America. Be advised that fraud vitiates the most solemn contract.

I do not make my living on the roads. I have never applied for a grant of driving privileges from the State of Oregon in the form of a license. I was, however, on 10/15/2000, charged with the offense of "No Operators License". I was given a summons to appear in the Grants Pass Circuit Court. I was not required to sign the summons nor did I agree to appear. The state cannot produce any document signed by me granting an attachment of equity jurisdiction between the United States and me. The Josephine County court, without proper jurisdiction, has attached a liability to me in the amount of $218.75 and assigned it to the Oregon Department of Revenue for collection. I am being threatened with the issuance of a distraint warrant. The DMV has issued me a license number for tracking purposes so they can record a suspension of driving privileges. The state has converted my Constitutional right into a crime without due process of law.

At this time I respectfully demand that all records involving driving or operating privileges, all court records, all assignments, liabilities, and warrants having my name on them be destroyed. This communication, in addition to you, is also being sent to all the major newsgroups on the internet and other groups in the United States that are actively involved in restoring our sacred liberties that are being taken from us one by one by more or less rapid encroachment. I believe in the rule of law. I stand firmly against the abrogation of NATURAL RIGHTS endowed us by our creator.

Sincerely,

George Lee McElroy

Cc: Oregon Department of Revenue
Oregon Department of Motor Vehicles
Representative Carl Wilson
Representative Jason Atkinson
Ray Karczewski
Illinois Valley News
Grants Pass Daily Courier
Josephine County Sheriff, Dave Daniel
Oregon Attorney General, Hardy Meyers
United States Attorney General, John Ashcroft

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Raymond Karczewski
Re: Here's your controlling law Raymond --- OR IS IT???
Thu Mar 29 18:29:40 2001


Re: Here's your controlling law Raymond --- OR IS IT???

Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:54:45 GMT

From: Immature and irresponsible (unknown)

unk: You're incoherent

unk: Why do you think only drivers of commercial vehicles need demonstrate driving competence? Are other drivers any less dangerous? Why? And what are your legal references to support any of your claims? I see nothing in your posts to support your argument in logic or law.

rk: Then you are not only an ignoramus but a blind one at that!
In the strict Letter of the Word environment which pervades the the legislative/judicial aspects of government, do not Oregon Revised Statutes § 807.080 (1999) fall within the Maxim
Res Ipsa Loquitor, i.e., "It Speaks for Itself."?

rk: If you would like to read it ONCE MORE and see what I mean, HERE IT IS AGAIN.

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Oregon Revised Statutes § 807.080 (1999)

807.080. Driver competency testing certificates; waiver of demonstration test for persons certified; rules; fees.

(1) The Department of Transportation, by rule, shall provide for the following in a manner consistent with this section: (a) The issuance of driver competency testing certificates. (b) The regulation of persons issued driver competency testing certificates.

(2) A person issued a driver competency testing certificate under this section may certify, in a manner established by the department, the competency of drivers to safely exercise driving privileges granted only under one or more of the following:

(a) A Class A commercial driver license.

(b) A Class B commercial driver license.

(c) A Class C commercial driver license.

(3) The department may waive an actual demonstration of ability to operate a motor vehicle under ORS 807.070 for an applicant who is certified by the holder of a driver competency testing certificate as competent to exercise the driving privileges in the class of license sought by the applicant.

(4) The rules adopted by the department under this section may include any of the following:

(a) The rules may establish reasonable fees for the issuance of a certificate or as part of any program of regulating certificate holders that is established by the department.

(b) The department may make the certificate renewable upon any basis determined convenient by the department and may include provisions for cancellation, revocation or suspension of certificates or for probation of certificate holders.

(c) The department may provide for the issuance of certifications allowing the holder to certify competency in several classes or types of driving privileges or limiting the classes or types of driving privileges for which the holder may certify competency.

(d) The department may establish the forms of certificates to be issued.

(e) The department may establish and require forms that are to be used by certificate holders in certifying competency.

(f) The department may establish any qualifications or requirements for obtaining a certificate that the department determines necessary to protect the interests of persons seeking certification by certificate holders.

(g) The department may issue certificates to publicly owned and operated educational facilities to allow programs for certification of competency.

(h) The department may issue certificates to employers to allow the employers to establish programs primarily for the certification of employees' competency. The department may provide that programs established under this paragraph may be operated without driver training school certificates under ORS 822.500 and without driver training instructor certificates under ORS 822.525.

(i) The department may establish any other provisions or requirements necessary to carry out the purposes of this section.

HISTORY: 1985 c.608 § 36; 1989 c.636 § 20

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Raymond Karczewski
Here's your controlling law Raymond --- OR IS IT???
Thu Mar 29 17:34:43 2001


Here's your controlling law Raymond --- OR IS IT???

unk: Here's your controlling law Raymond

Re: DRIVERS LICENSE VS RIGHT TO TRAVEL (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:02:55 GMT

From: Maybe you'd like to actually read it? (unknown)

unk: Here is the legislation duly enacted by representatives of the people. You'll notice, if you take the trouble to actually read the controlling law here, that teh purspoe of the license is to protect public safety, a compelling governmental interest that is upheld by appellate review.

rk: You will also notice that such legislation SPECIFICALLY applies ONLY TO "drivers" and commercially "driven" motor Vehicles, (check out legal definition of "driver" and "motor vehicle") AND NOT to Travellers and their private automobiles used in noncommercial activities.

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Oregon Revised Statutes § 807.080 (1999)

807.080. Driver competency testing certificates; waiver of demonstration test for persons certified; rules; fees.

(1) The Department of Transportation, by rule, shall provide for the following in a manner consistent with this section: (a) The issuance of driver competency testing certificates. (b) The regulation of persons issued driver competency testing certificates.

(2) A person issued a driver competency testing certificate under this section may certify, in a manner established by the department, the competency of drivers to safely exercise driving privileges granted only under one or more of the following:

(a) A Class A commercial driver license.

(b) A Class B commercial driver license.

(c) A Class C commercial driver license.

(3) The department may waive an actual demonstration of ability to operate a motor vehicle under ORS 807.070
for an applicant who is certified by the holder of a driver competency testing certificate as competent to exercise the driving privileges in the class of license sought by the applicant.

(4) The rules adopted by the department under this section may include any of the following:

(a) The rules may establish reasonable fees for the issuance of a certificate or as part of any program of regulating certificate holders that is established by the department.

(b) The department may make the certificate renewable upon any basis determined convenient by the department and may include provisions for cancellation, revocation or suspension of certificates or for probation of certificate holders.

(c) The department may provide for the issuance of certifications allowing the holder to certify competency in several classes or types of driving privileges or limiting the classes or types of driving privileges for which the holder may certify competency.

(d) The department may establish the forms of certificates to be issued.

(e) The department may establish and require forms that are to be used by certificate holders in certifying competency.

(f) The department may establish any qualifications or requirements for obtaining a certificate that the department determines necessary to protect the interests of persons seeking certification by certificate holders.

(g) The department may issue certificates to publicly owned and operated educational facilities to allow programs for certification of competency.

(h) The department may issue certificates to employers to allow the employers to establish programs primarily for the certification of employees' competency. The department may provide that programs established under this paragraph may be operated without driver training school certificates under ORS 822.500 and without driver training instructor certificates under ORS 822.525.

(i) The department may establish any other provisions or requirements necessary to carry out the purposes of this section.

HISTORY: 1985 c.608 § 36; 1989 c.636 § 20

=================================

Rev. Dr. J.D. Hooker
reply
Thu Mar 29 15:44:33 2001


This is just my own opinion, & anyone's free to disagree!!!
The Amish folks don't get drivers licenses, & they use the roadways!! BUT--they don't operate lethally dangerous iron motor vehicles either! In most states you can also drive a farm tractor on public roadways without any sort of license! They also don't have the EXPENSE of fuel, oil, tires, tune-ups & so forth! IF you're going to operate a car or truck, I'd recommend taking the trouble to get a license. If you don't want to, then why not trade in your car for a horse& buggy, or for a John Deere?

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RS 2477

RS2477 update from Brian Hawthorne, BlueRibbon Coalition, as of 1/1/06:

R.S. 2477: THE LEGAL BATTLE CONTINUES

Although most of the American public doesn't realize it, an R.S. 2477 Right of Way is their only guaranteed access across public lands. All other access rights are at the discretion of politically appointed bureaucrats, who often live far away from the lands at issue. If you understand this, you understand the importance of continued vigilance in the defense of these road rights.

"R.S. 2477" refers to a now-repealed portion of the 1866 Mining Act, which state's "the right of way for the construction of highways over public lands, not reserved for public uses, is hereby granted." While the grant was repealed in 1976, rights of way previously created under the statute can effectively remain "grandfathered" in and available to the public today.

R.S. 2477 claims have engendered great passion and confusion throughout the west, where state and local governments, federal land managers, public access proponents, wilderness advocates and private property owners have regularly taken irreconcilable positions on the issue.

On September 8, 2005 , a three-judge panel of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals issued a decision that could bolster the efforts of local governments and public access proponents to protect R.S. 2477 rights of way. The decision represents a huge victory for millions of Americans who value access to public lands.

The ruling came in an appeal from a US District of Utah decision in SUWA V. BLM (DC NO. 2:96-CV-836-TC). The litigation began in 1996 when road crews employed by Utah 's San Juan , Kane and Garfield Counties graded sixteen roads located in southern Utah . The Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance (SUWA) and other anti-access groups filed suit against the three counties and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), alleging that the counties had engaged in unlawful road construction activities and that the BLM had violated the law by not taking more aggressive action against road maintenance.

The BLM subsequently filed cross-claims against the counties, alleging their activities constituted trespass and degradation of federal property. The counties claim the road maintenance activities were lawful because the activities took place within valid R.S. 2477 rights of way.

The legislation wound its way through the US District Court in Utah for years until 2001, when Judge Tina Campbell issued a ruling that basically adopted SUWA's line of legal reasoning. Judge Campbell thus granted SUWA and BLM's request, ruling the counties did not have R.S. 2477 rights of way on fifteen of the sixteen roads at issue, and the counties maintenance work violated the law and constituted trespass under federal regulations.

The three-judge panel of the 10th Circuit reversed that ruling, finding that state law, not federal regulation, properly guides interpretation of the existence and scope of any R.S. 2477 roads. The case was remanded to the district court for new proceedings to address the validity of the counties' right of way claims, the scope of any such rights of way, and whether their actions constitute "trespass" on federal lands.

It will take some time to evaluate the impact of this important decision, but it appears the Circuit Court has reversed the District Court's deviation from the previously-established precedent and reminded the parties to focus on state law concepts in evaluating the counties' actions. R.S. 2477 claims have always presented complex legal, factual and political challenges. While this ruling will help clarify the rules of the game, it also leaves many thorny challenges for future debate.

To multiple-use advocates, this ruling was not unexpected. From the minute the ruling was made in the Utah District Court, it was assumed that much, if not all of the ruling would be overturned on appeal. But the ruling was made in 2001, and we've since had to endure the anti-access crowd waiving it in our face and working hard to represent Campbell 's ruling as settled precedent.

It has been a test of resolve, and not just for motorized access activists. County commissioners, state legislators, Governors and multiple use advocates across the west have had their determination and patience tested. Indeed, using Campbell 's ruling, many county commissioners have been courted by the federal agencies to take actions that would diminish public rights of way. County commissioners were threatened with the prospect of Campbell 's ruling becoming settled law, which was used as a reason to quit fighting for R.S. 2477 rights.

To the anti-access groups, this fight is a key step toward eliminating public access to public lands. Wealthy foundations are funding this effort, and their lobbyist's have convinced the highest levels of the federal government to support it. The fight has put pro-access groups in the situation of defending principles that should be settled law, and fighting the federal agencies whose job it is to support and defend that law.

BRC wants to express our sincere thanks to our partners in Utah who kept the pressure on local and state governments to vigorously defend these access rights. Each time you mention 2477 in your comments, each time you mention 2477 in your talks with politicians, and each time you join and contribute to organizations that support public access to public lands, you are doing your part to protect these road rights.

The lawsuit would not have been supported if politicians didn't realize their constituents want them to defend our road rights. Sometimes it's necessary to remind them, and now may be a great opportunity to do so by placing a phone call to your county commissioner and telling them, "Thanks for supporting the 2477 legal battle!"

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--For questions or comments on this article or related issues, contact: The BlueRibbon Coalition (BRC), 4555 Burley Drive , Suite A, Pocatello , ID 83202 1921. Phone: 208-237-1008l Fax: 208-237-9424. Email: <brmag@sharetrails.org>.

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RS2477 update from Brian Hawthorne, BlueRibbon Coalition, as of 6/30/05:

R.S. 2477 Update: It's reasonable to assume a ruling will come out of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals in the ongoing battle for title to America 's backcountry roads sometime this year. For those of you new to public lands access issue, this is about roads that existed prior to the passage of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act (FLPMA) See: <www.sharetrails.org /uploads/PDFs/FLPMA.pdf>

The case at issue is commonly known as the 'Utah Trespass Case' and began many years ago. The litigious anti-access crowd, along with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), is attempting to usurp jurisdiction of these roads via a lawsuit. It began in the Clinton/Gore administration when the BLM, under then Secretary Bruce Babbitt, cited several Utah counties with trespass after performing maintenance on certain roads.

For many years the case had been proceeding at more or less a parallel track to that of the famous Burr Trail case. However, in an unusual turn of events, the 'trespass' case switched in Utah 's federal district court from Judge David Sam to Judge Tina Campbell. In a highly unusual ruling, Campbell reversed all previous rulings and agreed with virtually all of the arguments brought by the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance. If allowed to stand, Campbell 's ruling would invalidate most R.S. 2477 rights of ways.

That case was appealed by the State of Utah and several Utah counties and last year, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals heard arguments both for and against Campbell 's ruling. BRC and our Utah partner, the Utah Shared Access Alliance (<www.usa-all.com>) filed 'friend of the court' briefs. We expect a ruling sometime in 2005.

The decision here will be critically important to anyone who wishes to visit the vast western American backcountry. Learn more about this important issue on the web: <www.rs2477roads.com>

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OLD NEWS FROM HERE ON.....

RS 2477, Published Apr. 17, 2003, by the Garfield County News (Utah)

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NOTE: This is only an excerpt from the article, specific to Utah but generic enough to help you understand RS2477.

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RS 2477 Roads: Deal Struck by Dept. of Interior and State of Utah

By Toni Thayer

The State of Utah and the U.S. Dept. of Interior entered into an agreement that many are hoping will resolve the bulk of the R.S. 2477 road issues. Utah Governor Mike Leavitt and Secretary of Interior Gale Norton signed the memorandum of understanding (MOU) on April 9th.

R.S. 2477 is the provision in federal law passed in 1866 that granted right-of-ways over public lands to the counties for construction of highways that became the transportation network allowing settlement of the western frontier. Under an R.S. 2477 right-of-way, the counties have control of the road, and the right is perpetual as granted by Congress. According to the Utah Association of Counties’ webpage, “approximately 90% of all roads in Utah's ten southern counties are R.S. 2477 rights-of-way.”

In 1976, Congress passed the Federal Land Policy and Management Act, giving title of all roads constructed after that date, and crossing public lands, to the federal government. The federal government has control of these “Title V” roads and gives the counties an easement for use. Any work outside of a road’s current scope must go through an environmental study and be approved by the federal government. Title V use is not guaranteed to the counties and may be withdrawn by the federal government.

In the past, disputes have arisen between the federal and county governments over control of roads crossing public lands and their correct classification, as either “RS 2477” or “Title V”. On June 14, 2000, the State of Utah sent a Notice of Intention to File Suit over Utah’s RS 2477 roads to the Secretary of Interior. In preparation for the legal challenge, the counties inventoried and mapped their roads and gathered historical information to support their claims.

According to Governor Leavitt in an April 9th teleconference, the recently signed deal establishes an administrative process whereby the counties will apply to the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) for an “Acknowledgement”, their acceptance or denial of certain roads as RS 2477. The MOU states that the counties will reimburse BLM for “the reasonable and necessary cost of processing each request”.

This submittal by the counties will initiate BLM’s standard public comment, decision-making and appeal processes. If BLM approves the RS 2477 status, they issue a disclaimer and record it at the county recorder’s office. At any time prior to actual recording of the disclaimer, the counties may withdraw their application.

The agreement hinges on seven touchstones as requirements for those roads that the counties may submit to BLM for their administrative decision. The touchstones are:

· Clear evidence of existence in, or before, 1976.

· Travel can be made by normal vehicles, such as cars and trucks.

· Not be in a national park.

· Not be in a wilderness area, Congressionally designated on or before Oct. 21, 1993.

· Not be in a wilderness study area, Congressionally designated on or before Oct. 21, 1993.

· Not be in a national wildlife refuge.

· Not be expanded, but accepted “where is, as is”.

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