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Embarrassing. Hank Paulson's gravestone should read: "He died a thief, cheat and a liar and emboldened others to brazenly do likewise." Maggot shite indeed.
July 21, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterspideydouble
Ok It is nice to see him squirm.
One piece of democracy that works, and separates America from an autocracy is that these people can be made to answer for what they have done. But, if all he gets is a a few questions asked of him, what is the point? He gave away how many billions $ to his friends?
If he does not go to jail then you really have to ask, what's the point?
July 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMorton
I want to see Hank Paulson in an orange perp suit....along with the rest of the Goldman Sachs crooks!
July 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterWestWright
Paulson is a crook. Love to see him in jail as well!!
July 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSell Short
"It's a safe banking system, a sound banking system. Our regulators are on top of it. This is a very manageable situation." ---Hank Paulson July 20, 2008

http://cunningrealist.blogspot.com/2009/07/more-greatest-hits.html

Liar or dumbass?
July 22, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJames H
James.

I've thought about your exact Q quite a bit and I was watching intently every single day last year, and the answer I've come up with is dumbass.

Guys like Paulson, Thain, Stan O'Neil, Chuck Prince, Bob Rubin, Jimmy Cayne, Fuld and others were disconnected from what their firms were holding. Paulson was an investment banker and never a trader...his career was built on doing deals, not trading securitized derivatives...

Evidence has shown that even the Risk MGMT. departments at these banks were almost completely in the dark about the cesspools of assets both on and off their balance sheets.

Bernanke and Geithner were caught massively unaware as well and the NY Fed (which TG ran) was in charge of regulating Wall Street specifically.

So none of these fools saw it coming...I think Paulson didn't understand the scope of the problem until mid August to September of last year.

He recognized there was a problem but greatly underestimated it b/c he didn't take the time to understand the magnitude of the bubble and the coming foreclosure tidal wave.
July 22, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Daily Bail,

I think about this alot, too. Dumbass or liar? (Sounds like a party game.) It really is hard to tell sometimes, but that's the world we live in. The people in office (and in the corner office) can neither be trusted for their competence nor for their honesty. I appreciate your perspective, because most of us are complete and total outsiders looking in. It's hard to know when we are being paranoid or when we're being naive. But what you say about Paulson sounds plausible. Janet Tavakoli has said similar things about Bob Rubin. I wonder about the dates with Paulson, though. Kashkari says that they "knew" a big bailout would be needed from Congress sometime early in 2008, but that they waited until September when things were getting really bad before they asked for the funds.
July 22, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJames H
I have never seen that comment from Kashkari...see if you can find that for me...if that's true then my opinion just changed about him and a few others...

I told everyone who would listen in the Summer of 2006 that AIG, fannie and freddie would all be wiped out...i also knew every investment bank and most commercial banks would eventually become effectively insolvent...the leverage was just too great to withstand the asset plunge....

Think about it...at 30:1 leverage, your assets only have to decline 4% in value and your equity is wiped out...

What surprised me was the scope...I knew mortgage assets and securitized versions thereof would all become close to worthless, but I did not anticipate that all other asset classes would lose 1/2 to 3/4 of their value as well...

I expected stocks to get smoked, but I didn't see the tsunami coming to private equity, or leveraged loans for example. If you area a bank or some massive endowment that owns a chunk of PE assets, you are lucky to get 30 cents on the dollar trying to unload that crap now.

But in retrospect it makes great sense...the destruction of equity and teh need to raise capital forced the sale of other assets on a massive scale...nothing was spared.

I put an article into links last week about what has happened on teh Antiques Roadshow for instance...values for 18th century end tables have fallen from $15k to less than $500 bucks...that's some serious asset deflation...and speaks volumes about the scope of the bubble before it popped...
July 22, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
http://dailybail.com/home/neel-kashkari-with-charlie-rose-video-broadcast-may-7.html

In the first summary video, Kashkari acknowledges that Paulson and Bernanke both knew they would need to pursue a bailout and agonized over timing because they were uncertain the political will was there.

01:35 "It was not until probably January of 2008 were we began serious work contingency planning that if the correction was so bad that the private market s would become unwilling to provide capital to the financial system, there might come a time when the Federal Government would have to step in to stabilize the financial system."

02:55 "So the toughest challenge for Secretary Paulson and Chairman Bernanke was when to go to congress. When can we go when we know we are going to get the authority. Because if we go and we don't get it, that could be very damaging."
July 22, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterspideydouble
They are all treasonous liars in my opinion. Kashkari is a very intelligent and articulate guy, buy I have never believed a word he says. He takes talking point coaching well and still makes it seem natural and sincere. He would make a great actor someday.

That or he is so caught up in the web of deceit that he can't tell the illusion from reality. Still inexcusable, since he surely has hundreds if not thousands pointing out the distinction to him.
July 22, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterspideydouble
@SD

Thanks for finding that...I either didn't watch that entire interview or had forgotten it...great stuff...

Do you use a web service to translate video into transcripts or was it just the honest hard work, of an American patriot fighting for the remaining vestiges of truth and justice in his once proud land?

Either way, I thank you.
July 22, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
@DailyBail

No, I don't use a web service to translate video into transcripts for any of my posts, hence the numerous syntax and spelling errors. You probably could get Dragon NaturallySpeaking or something like it to get basic transcripts, but it may be more effort that it is worth than by just doing it the old fashioned way. It is just the honest hard work, of an American patriot fighting for the remaining vestiges of truth and justice in his once proud land. You are more than welcome. It's the least I can do as a repayment in kind to all of your own blood, sweat, and tears on this site.
July 22, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterspideydouble
@spidey

Thanks for finding that Kashkari quote -- I've been away from "the internets" all day.

I was pretty shocked by Kashkari's statements when I watched this back then. See, that's the perfect example of how difficult it is to play Dumbass or Liar. I had assumed Bernanke was a definite Dumbass, but with Paulson I wasn't so sure (I'm still not completely sure). Now I know (if Kashkari is to be believed) that both Bernanke and Paulson are definite Liars if not also Dumbasses -- "subprime is contained", "the banking system is sound". What makes me angry -- what doesn't these days? -- is all the clear and obvious happy talk right up until September 15. Which makes me wonder whether Kashkari's revelation was calculated or just a slip. If the MSM knew what they were doing, or weren't simply craven, they could do a whole mini-series on What Did Paulson and Bernanke Know...And When Did They Know It? Probably won't happen. Dylan Ratigan might take it up... but probably nobody else.
July 22, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJames H
@ James

I would expect no less from our official Hearst/Rockefeller/Rothschild/Murdoch/Luce propaganda machine. I pray someone like Dylan Ratigan will take up the Paulson/Bernanke what did they know and when cause.
July 23, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterspideydouble
Ron Paul vs. the Neocon Cowards

Positions of Dr. Paul’s that would help achieve this objective include:

1. Getting rid of the Federal Reserve, which functions as the financial enabler of war, as well as its head-coach.
2. Forcing politicians in favor of war to make a formal declaration of war, as specified in the Constitution.

To which I would add:

3. Patriotism requires that the profit-motive be put-aside in time of war. Therefore, financially profiting from a soldier’s courage, and, possibly, from the sacrifice of a soldier’s life, should be forbidden by law.
4. By law, every elected representative espousing war must either personally ship-off to battle, or, send a close family member in his stead.

The Ron Paul Revolution is, among other things, a revolution to reclaim our original American spirit, a spirit mangled, at least since the time of Lincoln, by the passive acceptance, and tacit encouragement, of state-sponsored mass-murder for profit.
October 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKen
Favorite line from Stearns: "You're saying to us that you support the Obama administration giving more power to the federal regulator--the Fed--but when you look, Geithner was on board with the New York Fed, dealing with all these institutions--HE didn't get it."

Paulson did not look good, physically. Every last bit of decency he may have had has dried up and he's running on pure evil. I predict a stroke by next July. ...or a heart attack.
October 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSonic Ninja Kitty
What a rumbling bumbling mumbling idiot!
October 15, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterhoo hoo hoo
I can't wait until the entire country is talking like Cliff Stearns... Gunning down the bailouts and the criminals involved.
October 15, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterst. louis, misery
Blah, blah, blah. Wake me up when the rest of you morons are ready to hang these bastards upside down from steel girders like Mussolini, so I can come down and pump their stinking dead corpses full of LEAD.
October 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterInstitutionalizedFraud
@ Fraud

So what you're saying is after someone here commits murder, you'll be happy to come along and shoot the already-dead bodies...

You're quite the revolutionary. Whoa.
October 15, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
USA working class bamboozled and sleep , Bankers raided the pensions with this bubble to send into bust pit with coming crash, Already crashed homes?lol

Addicted to Internet screams and bashing each other and thinking a revolution will take care itself?lol

What a Bamboozled Generation?lol

Dollar to Hit 50 Yen, Cease as Reserve, Sumitomo Says (Update1)
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October 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKen
Paulson you crook you have ruined this country.
October 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSell Short
The credit crunch is getting worse on Main Street, despite a Wall Street bailout now in the trillions of dollars. The Federal Reserve’s charts show that “base money” is rapidly expanding—meaning coins, paper money, and commercial banks’ reserves with the central bank. But the money isn’t getting where it needs to go to stimulate economic growth: into the bank accounts of American businesses and consumers. The Fed has been pumping out money to the banks, and their reserves have been growing at unprecedented rates, but the money supply in the real economy has been declining.

According to Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, writing last month in the UK Telegraph, U.S. bank credit and M3 (the broadest measure of the money supply) contracted over the summer at rates comparable to the onset of the Great Depression. In the summer quarter, U.S. bank loans fell at an annual pace of almost 14 percent. “There has been nothing like this in the USA since the 1930s,” said Professor Tim Congdon of International Monetary Research. “The rapid destruction of money balances is madness.”

Chartered banks are allowed to create credit on their books equal to many times their deposit base, but lately they haven’t been doing it. In more normal times, one dollar in base money has been fanned by the banks into $8.50 in loans. Today, one dollar in base money produces only one dollar in loans. Although the Fed has been frantically pushing cash into the banks, it can’t make them lend to consumers.
October 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKen
Has anyone here noticed the amazing similarities between Lex Luthor and this Paulson guy? The same bald head, the same evil beady eyes. The same twisted smirk. The same plans for world domination and subsequent destruction of the entire human race.
October 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterGoKaptur!
GoKaptur,

You're on a comment rampage. Anger is good. Cultivate it. Nurture it. Sharpen thy pitchfork. The peasants are pissed off and we might just win this time.
October 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJames H
James H

Kaptur is my Commander in Chief and I asked 15 families to stop all loan payments to Banker terrorists and the revolt is on.Now do you folks here have the balls to revolt now?

Kaptur is not reading here...........

Contact her office , join the revolution
October 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKen
Ken,

What do you mean -- I mean, what did you convince them to do? Mortgages, credit cards...? And how did you get in contact with 15 indebted families?
October 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJames H
Whatever, nice work.
October 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJames H
What do you mean -- I mean, what did you convince them to do? Mortgages, credit cards...? And how did you get in contact with 15 indebted families?

James this question makes me laugh?

In California in any given town , it is easy to find 15 families in just one neighbor hood.
My town, hit hard properties below construction cost and banks holding back inventory flood.

hang them high folks..now

CHICAGO MOB SHILL=OBAMA=PUPPERT OF BANKER TERRORSIST

revolution is not unleashed with screams on yahoo board:time to talk and unite neighborhoods now

This is not my America
Im fed up with this extreme immoral greed from the elites and plutocrats running our system. From GS and the banks stealing $700B of taxpayer money meanwhile running a ten % unemployment, outsourcing of jobs and more. No regulations in the financial sector is insane.

To a epidemic of diabetes in America due to slave food fastfood on every corner making Americans sick and overweight. What choice do they have? MCD, Taco Bell, pizza chains, fried chicken chains, chinese food chains, sub sandwhich chains--they are all unhealthy.

Then the so called "health insurance industry" turns down my fellow Americans for so called preexisting conditions so Americans cant even get health care. Lobbyists spend millions and billions to make sure average Americans cant get health care and are gouged on credit cards anf the like.

Lastly I saw Michael Moore's Capitalism and it pains me greatly to seee in the corporations own writing they look at my fellow Americans as peasants.

Enough is enough this is what revolutions are made of.

My Commander in Chief is KAPTUR

OBAMA=CRIMINAL=TREASON
October 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKen
Revolution unleashed , join in with revolt action Fellow Americans:

Cash Every Check, carry cash, pay with cash, strangle the Banker Crooks: Our own Bail out has begun.

Best Advice For All True Americans!!!

Stop paying ALL credit cards and stop using ALL ATM cards. Everytime you swip an ATM card the banks get a fee. Pay everything in cash, invest in real tangible private assets like gold snd silver, and UNPLUG from the f*cking matrix!!!!!
October 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKen
Damn, this clip is great.

Re: the dumbass or liar debate... um, c. all of the above.
October 18, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterallie
yes it is allie...it's one of the best clips on the site
October 19, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Wow! $200,000,000.00 in profit and no taxes? These guys have really set the system up for themselves. Look at their retirements, their health care, their tax breaks! Who the #%&@ are they kidding. Democrats, Republicans, bla bla bla bla bla, it's all a joke! They get all of us to think some of them are on our side and really they are all on our back screwing us. Unbelievable.
October 20, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterex-republicrat
I hate Paulson and Bernake like the next person. But Cliff Stearns lost ALL credibility the moment he advocated the TARP money be used to pay down equity of OTHER people's mortgages.

Why should I, the tax payer be paying SOME OTHER person's mortgage when I don't even own a house? In fact, why should I... a renter be making life hard for myself for keeping real estate artificially inflated?

Whatever mistakes were made. The one right decision was not to throw tax payer money buy paying off other people's mortgages.
October 20, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJake
"But Cliff Stearns lost ALL credibility the moment he advocated the TARP money be used to pay down equity of OTHER people's mortgages."

Jake, While I agree with your statement regarding paying other peoples mortgages, I have to say I would rather have seen some of my neighbors not have to pull their kids out of school, loose their house and move across town to some apartment verses these a-holes taking hundreds and hundreds of billions of our tax dollars and giving it to these damn companies so that their ivy league buddies could get their big ass bonus this year. I don't know if Stearns actually would have voted for a program to buy down the principal on peoples mortgages, but I know he thinks that would have been a far better idea than what actually took place. For that I cannot fault him.
October 20, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterex-republicrat
Jake and ex-Republicrat

The debate you're having is one we've had here for months...ultimately, i say no bailouts for anyone...if you said we have to help one of the 2 sides, i would of course not choose the banks and offer help in a form that benefits everyone out there NOT JUST houseowners...renters get screwed 7 ways to Sunday and there's no end in sight...
October 20, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Daily,
I agree. My business is doing about 35% of what it was a couple of years ago. I quit looking for my bailout check a long time ago. Fortunately I have always been frugal and lived well within my means. So far I am weathering the storm, but I can't stand hearing someone driving around in their brand new BMW, living in their big McMansion, with their four car garage full of every toy you can think of, all of which is purchased on credit. Then they start whining about wanting some help with their mortgage. I really do feel sorry for them, because I can't imaging how they sleep at night worrying about all of their stuff, but I also think maybe they will learn something out of this experience and we'll all be a little better off for it. I'm glad I found this site, great discussions.
October 21, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterex-republicrat
You sound like one of us...most of us blame both parties and are believers in neither...it's a 1-party system and we're tired of it...
October 24, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
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October 24, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKyle Krol
you americans are hilarious. your country could not even put away the real criminals behind JFK's assassination. (the damaged windshield, and bullethole above the rear view mirror frame is dead on proof there was a second shooter).

tell me, if your own government would lie its ass off in the assasination of its own president, what makes you think anything will happen to one of their corrupt friends in the financial world? nothing.

absolutely nothing.

keep on crying though! :) it makes good comedy. nothing will happy from your worthless crying.
October 26, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTruth is dead
@truth is dead

Some of us are trying to make change...
October 27, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
While I detest Hank Paulson and would like to see him in prison, I don't think much of this clip. The Congressman asks question after question and makes charge after charge. Then every time Paulson starts to respond the Congressman starts up again and says he isn't going to let Paulson take all his time. These types of hearing where every member of a Congressional committee gets 5 minutes to grandstand are worthless. Each side of the aisle should appoint one or two members to ask questions, put the questions together as a group, and have some ground rules such as 1 minute for a question, 2 or 3 minutes for an answer.
October 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDP
While I detest Hank Paulson and would like to see him in prison, I don't think much of this clip. The Congressman asks question after question and makes charge after charge. Then every time Paulson starts to respond the Congressman starts up again and says he isn't going to let Paulson take all his time. These types of hearing where every member of a Congressional committee gets 5 minutes to grandstand are worthless. Each side of the aisle should appoint one or two members to ask questions, put the questions together as a group, and have some ground rules such as 1 minute for a question, 2 or 3 minutes for an answer.

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I have always felt the same...5 minutes are a joke...it's a grandstand...each side should choose a few members and give them 15 minutes each...then let everyone else have 2 minutes to make a statement if they so choose...
October 30, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
You guys rule. I worked in finance and I always thought I just ended up in a snake pit. I thought that if I kept rising up, I'd find honor somewhere. I never found anyone with any honor and the people were only more deranged than previously.
December 8, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterEthan Cast
Interesting ethan...
December 8, 2009 | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Sorry, but the congressman comes off as a total idiot. Paulson changed TARP. Goldman Sachs agreed - they did not want it or need it - to take 10 billion in TARP funds, which they have since paid back plus interest and a tidy profit for the taxpayer on the warrants. The congressmen confuses that source with the 12.9 billion GS got after the Fed loaned tens of billions to AIG: the source was not TARP, it was the Federal Reserve. So the congressman doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground. The 12.9 billion included 4.8 billion for highly liquid agency money securities - money GS would have gotten no matter what - even if AIG had gone into a disorderly bankruptcy. The 12.9 billion included a 2.5 billion collateral posting per the CDS contract. GS already had 1.4 billion of that from their backstop, which they had to return: nets to 1.1 billion on their side. The 12.9 included 5.6 billion for the purchase of a Goldman Sachs asset at a 60% discount. So the net to GS on the transaction was 1.1 billion. In this matter, outraged congressmen have consistently shown themselves to be total morans. Tone down the outrage, do some math.
January 26, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJCH
JCH, congressmen are almost all "total morans," but let's do the math from the taxpayer's perspective. At least 12.9 B, not counting collateral that might have been invalidated in a BK, went to Goldman. The taxpayer has received 0 B on the 12.9 B. Just doing a rough calculation, that still comes up to about 12.9 B. It's immaterial whether Goldman would have gotten their money absent the AIG bailout.
January 26, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJames H
The Chinese quickly EXECUTED a crooked official. Imagine how that would clean up Washington!
February 6, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRichard Webb
Just another Chicago politician!!! Paulo, Blogo & Obomo ---------
June 18, 2010 | Unregistered Commentermadord

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