"Students Are Trapped By Selfish, Greedy & Disgraceful Teacher Unions" (MUST SEE Speech From Gov. Christie)

Video:  NJ Governor Chris Christie on public schools, teachers' unions -- June 2

I believe this speech was delivered yesterday in DC.  Take a listen if you care about the state of public education in this country.  This is a phenomenal clip.  Quotes are transcribed inside -- runs just 3 minutes.  Christie takes no prisoners.  No BS, no tip-toeing around issues.  He absolutely annihilates the motives and actions of teacher unions nationwide. 

And yet the Deficit President wants to reward them with a $26 billion bailout.

A message to teachers out there -- we love you and what you do, but your unions are out of control.

• "In New Jersey, the teachers' union collects $130 million in annual dues from 200,000 teachers across the state."

• "Parents and children deserve a choice.  Parents and children who are being failed by a public school system whose costs are exorbitant and whose results are insulting, deserve a choice."

• "Students are trapped by an educational bureaucracy.  Trapped by a selfish, self-interested, greedy school union that cares more about putting money in their own pocket and in the pocket of members than they care about educating our most vulnerable and needy children around the country."

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Check out this related story from MISH:

Public Union Parasites Move To Bar California Bankruptcies

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Also:

Are Journalists Finally Getting Over their Pro-Teacher-Union Fetish?

Let’s face it. From the 2004 New York Yankees to that statue of Saddam Hussein, most of us get a kick out of seeing the mighty fall. And that’s essentially what’s happening to teachers’ unions all over this nation. For all the good they did when they were first formed 50 to 75 years ago, teachers’ unions have devolved into opponents of meaningful educational reform.

Update on Jun 4, 2010 at 2:47 PM by DailyBail

Updated with 2 new links.

Comments

[DailyBail]

NY State lawmakers put teacher-union interests ahead of taxpayers

http://frankseabrook.com/2010/03/30/ny-state-lawmakers-put-teacher-union-interests-ahead-of-taxpayers/

[DailyBail]

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/06/reputation_of_nj_teachers_unio.html

N.J. teachers union's reputation suffers in clash with Gov. Christie, poll finds

[DailyBail]

Central Falls Rhode Island Fires Every High School Teacher

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/02/central-falls-rhode-island-fires-every.html

[DailyBail]

Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror: How the Teachers' Unions Are Destroying California's Economy

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/02/bloodcurdling-tales-of-horror-how.html

[Benny and the Talibanks]

I'm not defending all the teacher unions or any unions but it does pain me to see the misguided hatred by DB, a person who I believe has some common sense. DB has fallen for the Larry Kudlow republican jedi mind trick. We all know what criminals idiots most of the politicians are, can you imagine if your paycheck was dependent on the whims of Nancy Pelosi or George Bush. Most of the unions are collective bargaining units who sole function is to stop some crack addicted politician from destroying their earning power.

Not a teacher but I'm related to one. 4 years of undergraduate work, 1 year of teaching credentials and 3 years for a master degree, if you want to make the big 82,000 DB is always complaining about. 8 years of loans for a highly educated position. And don't think you stayed at a Holiday Inn and you could do the job, you can't. If you could and they made such good money and benefits you would do it.

I'll have to finish my thought later.

DB, you correctly call out much of the problems with government spending but I'll leave you with this nugget, it was the collapse of the power of the middle class and the unions that caused many of the problems we are in.

[DailyBail]

Benny...my girlfriend spent 7 years in school...a masters degree, 14 years of experience, 52k in student loans and makes 35k per year...she's a social worker who helps senior with the complexities of Medicare enrollment and she is the county manager of the 211 Social Service Line...she gets 2 weeks of vacation per year...and she has had the job for 4 years...so 35k is after a few raises...now let's talk...

Teachers do extremely well considering...EXTREMELY WELL...and they get 3-4 months of vacation...

Now for the unions...i was saving this for a story but here goes...and read these links carefully...

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/02/did-you-think-california-teachers.html

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/02/bloodcurdling-tales-of-horror-how.html

And administrators are part of the teachers unions in most states...

The average teacher gets a pension worth over 2 million in California...the average administrator gets a pension of $9 million in illinois...

Now that you see the numbers, I hope you'll reconsider...this isn't jedi mind trick Kudlow...it's real and it's completely out of control...and we pay every dime of these pensions...

[DailyBail]

And one mre thing, Benny...i have no complaints about private unions...as long as the company isn't getting bailed out they can pay their retirees whatever they want...it's the PUBLIC unions that are completely out of control...and teh teachers union in particular fights school choice tooth and nail, proving they don't care about kids, just protecting their turf...the whole thing makes me sick...and i forgot to add i have 4 teachers very closely related to me...sister, brother in law, 2 aunts...it's nothing against teachers or their salaries...it's the pensions for both teachers and administrators in some states...and more than anything, it's their attitude towards to improving education and allowing school choice....competition...

[S. Gompers]

I have stated before that it takes two to negotiate a collective bargaining agreement, the union representatives, and the management team. It is funny how no one ever blames the management team, since they both have to agree in order for a contract to be ratified.

No one ever pays attention to managements packages either. In Cincinnati a few years ago a Superintendent quit her job for a better job, and the troubled school district had to pay her for the other two years of her salary (200+ per year) plus pay for a new Superintendent at more money.

All in the midst of severe budget troubles, no one ever blames management...

It really does take two parties to screw things up this bad.

[S. Gompers]

And a lot of time.

[JTS]

And we pay both sides .Gov job bennys are treated like something special .What about all the companies who
lost all the pension money and just said oh well keep working i can name a half dozen.
It takes common sense on both sides not just a pissing match.In a free open market like other fields the
teachers union would fail management fail we are not talking real world case. I would wonder how
private schools stack up.Lets face it everything the gov tries to run turns into a cluster fuck.
The big problem with students today is parents think the school should raise the kids .But when i
was in school more parents were involved now its a just drop the kids off and its there problem.
Oh and God help you if you look at the kid wrong or say anything that might hurt the kids gentle killer
feelings.

[DailyBail]

Benny...read this...from Mish...

Public Union Parasites Move To Bar California Bankruptcies

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/06/public-union-parasites-move-to-bar.html

[DailyBail]

The big problem with students today is parents think the school should raise the kids .But when i
was in school more parents were involved now its a just drop the kids off and its there problem.

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you are absolutely right.,..it's why i don't really blame teachers...most are smart, hard-working folks...the problem STARTS WITH THE FAMILY...the home environments for some of these kids are deplorable...we have a lot of people in this country with kids who should not have them...this is the root cause of most of our societal problems in my opinion...

[Texas Dar]

And to add to all of this is what happed back in the early 80's. Being an Entertainer and playing music for a career I saw everything go down the toilet.

The music comming out along with what the kids watched on TV was getting a bit out of control. At first the parents warned that our kids no longer listen to us and have turned in many of us for getting on to them to the school board.

Everything went from bad to "Badder"............Parents being beatten up, teachers being beatting up. School board doing nothing about it other than to tell the kids you have the control and report any parent that trys to stop you.

God forbid we live long enough to get threw the 90's. The Unions got what they wanted all right. Now, no more spankings, no more groundings. No more time outs or little Johny will not fit in with the his croud. Little Johny gets what ever he wants now.

Break down the kids first, and then the parents. Turn the kids agunist the parents, and the system protects them, and you get what we have today. A "Freeeeeekin Meeeeess".......................!

You have the few kids that realy want to be somebody someday, and they have nothing to turn to. The whole system has let them down. The good students are indeed traped in a system that dosent evan see them anymore.

But wait, by this time next year "Sink-Holes" will open up and swallow whole Unions. Everything is going to start to fall apart. If we evan make it to June 2011.

I said in the 80's if we let this go on we'll be out of control by 2000. Now we've have 10 more years to see it start to fall apart. Guess nobody cared about the little guy, nor dose yeat today.

[Kurt Moosdorf]

Public school teachers have some of the toughest jobs in the country. They take the kids whose parents and communities have abused and neglected them, and for six hours a day the teachers are expected to teach these kids. A third of the poor kids usually leave the district every year so even the best teacher gets a kid a for a short period of time. So how do we treat the folks who we asked to do the near impossible? Christie craps all of over them. Calls them a disgrace. What courage! By the same logic Christie should be crapping all over our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. What's it been? 9 or 10 years and trillion dollars later and still chaos reins in those countries. Where's the outrage? How come Christie doesn't call our troops a disgrace? He doesn't call them that because he knows that their job is thankless, hard, and often impossible - just like the job that public school teachers have to deal with in the cities.

And don't give me the bogus "choice" argument, as if that's whats holding kids' education up. What a load of crap. For the past 30 years educated whites exercised their "choice" and bolted from the city schools and fled to the suburbs and private schools. And what was the impact? City school districts from New York to LA to Newark to San Francisco to Detroit were all disseminated. Urban schools lost out even in the wealthy successful cities like San Diego and San Fransisco. Choice killed public schools. More choice will get you some isolated cases of successful schools that can retain and recruit conscientious parents but the rest will flounder just like the city schools floundered when white fled the schools in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s.

Christie's comments make me sick.

[S. Gompers]

Yes JTS, parents play a big role, and still no one blames management...

Not parents or management, interesting...

[JTS]

To KM i went to public schools were they bussed in black kids from other neighbor hoods so i dont want to here about choice
the reason people took there kids away was because these low income families had for the most part no values THEY got
special treatment and I HAD TO WATCH IT.Dont give me that poor kid bullshit we had a more choices and a chance to learn
more than the private schools .IF you applied yourself.Its the way they baby kids and the parents cry .And sorry but i dont think
teaching is the worse job i stand all day put up with idiots work around chemicals that will kill me work in the heat cold dirty
so putting up with whining ass kids for 6 hours a day isnt all that bad .BTW were i went to hi school they spend more on the
football program than books.Thy told me if i played football i wouldnt have to worry about class,And seen a lot of these
poor poor teachers push kids right through .Just the way i seen it no disrespect intended .

[Texas Dar]

Not parents or management, interesting...

Niether one gives a crap anymore. The system takes everything it can take, and the rest just give up. Its the way the goverment planed it all a long....!

[JTS]

You Nailed it Dar

[Kurt Moosdorf]

Last point. It's precisely these kids that JTS says have no values that teachers in public schools have to educate. I'm not going to jump on the ridiculous racist bandwagon. I personally think poverty and unemployment have a lot to do with it. But whatever the reason, the kids in inner-city schools are extremely tough to teach. The fact that test scores and graduation rates are in way evidence that teachers are doing a poor job. We would never say our troops are a disgrace in Afghanistan and Iraq even though we're no closer to a stable government than we were eight years ago. Although I'd say there's a much stronger case to be made that waste in the military far exceeds anything in the public schools.

[JTS]

They are tough to tech because they dont want to learn .And that started at home.A teacher can get on a kid
and the first thing you see is the parent upset about how the teacher is wrong.It Has to do with self pride if
the inner city parents do not instill that what can all the money or teachers in the world do.And im sorry
but i do not suffer from white guilt .Everyone should be equal and that is not how it was when i was in school.
i came from the same income based family.But i got my ass busted if i did wrong. Just my opinion.
A nobel winner can come from any place hell even Obongo won and he didnt do anything.LOL

[Texas Dar]

*******************You Nailed it Dar ******************

Back in the late 50's the goverment set out a plan for them self's. Whats happening to day proves thAre plan worked out much better than they could of ever planed it.

Now, what are we going to do about it....? "Not Much", its now way past trying to fix. You would need to take away all the kids from the 80's.............90's...........that got thier way no matter how wrong it was they were doing. The kids of the last 10 years have no clue as to whats realy going on.

Its the 20 years of kids that are running the country today, and still think we owe it to them. The goverment has told them so for 30 years now. Only a hand full can see the Tea Party as the way out of the mess were in.

Nobody gives a shit anymore, but by God, somebody owes me a dam good living here......................! The goverment told me 20-30 years ago im owed everything and responable for nothing.

I saw it comming in the 80's with the music they played and the TV they watched, and the games they played killing one an other. Today thier killing games are for real.....!

[S. Gompers]

Are you reffering to the Iron Mountain report T. Dar?

Lets not forget Dr. Spock while we are at it.

[Texas Dar]

************** Are you reffering to the Iron Mountain report T. Dar? **************

I do not recall any report, but im sure its on the same train tracks I was a riddin on all them years.................? I do know we let our self's get screw'ed up the "Yang-Yang"..........and now we live with what we were screw'ed over. A bunch of Spoiled Brats....................

I saw it comming. All I could do is watch it come to the people. "Oh Great Goverments Master Plan"..........& here we sit in a tub of goverment shit !

[S. Gompers]

Look it up, you will find it...

[Texas Dar]

"WoW" Gompers, this is the first time I've heard of it but its gona go into my file "Death to the American People" for sharing. Cant wait to watch the clip...... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6745627342652553091#

And read to piece. Just when I think I know Everything......( I Dont Know Crap, compared to you guys ) I learn something new. Thanks !

[S. Gompers]

I read the report twenty something years ago, it had been around awhile even then. Did not know they had videos about it.

[Texas Dar]

"OMG" Gompers........... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6745627342652553091# The movie is so more scarry than the paper read.

Cool thing is that you can see the time line from the day They Killed "JFK" ! And its gettin real close to the "Ka-Boom" ?

[Texas Dar]

But this one should scare the crap out of just about everyone here...........

PK: What I found at the PIT plant was very heinous. I found that a strain of hydrogen cyanide called Prussian Blue was being tested on gas mask filters more than 1 year prior to the Persian Gulf War. This information was known to the President of the United States, George Bush. It was arranged through Trevor Armbrister, a CIA asset and a Senior Editor of Reader's Digest, to fly me to the steps of the White House. Time does not permit me to tell my story, but the information that I want to get out to the American people is that the Gulf War illnesses are actually communicable diseases. The microbes will live almost indefinitely, but for a minimum of seven years. It's on the gas masks, the clothing, the weapons -- any of the materials brought back from the Gulf War. I have reports from several different states where civilians that bought some of the clothing went home and wore them, and now the entire family is in wheel chairs; there have been some deaths as a result of this.

C: Peter, is there any connection between this and "mad cow" disease and the wheat blight going on in Arizona?

PK: Mad Cow disease came out in Britain; however, a lot of this can be traced back to the Gulf War. We're not being told here in the United States that there is much more going on around the world. We are looking at a worldwide plague. It is not just the Gulf War veterans that have it; it is spreading around the world. A lot of the diseases that you're hearing about are not the result of natural causes; they are from the Persian Gulf war
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/resnick_interview_peter_kawaja.htm

Sorry DB, I got off corse again, but this is important...!

[RecoverylessRecovery]

I once stayed a few days over at a friend's house, whose sister teaches elementary school in Southern CA. Her school proudly proclaimed itself to be a "drug-free" environment and my firend's sister even wore a red ribbon stating the same on her lapel. Of course, that didn't seem to stop her from smoking pot very single morning at 6 am right before going to work. I got into a heated argument with her once because she insisted that King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table was an actual historical event instead of being a mythological figure based losely on a bygone Celtic king who MIGHT have existed.

The fact is that the American educational system is SHIT. The teachers are SHIT and the students are SHIT.
SHIT in & SHIT out: THAT'S how 'education' goes in the USA. Is it any wonder that 95% of your population can't place their own state on a map nor identify historical names & places?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

[Texas Dar]

Is it any wonder that 95% of your population can't place their own state on a map nor identify historical names & places?..................... I got to agree with you on this much. Its just that I think the good teachers have givin up on trying to reach the ones......90%.........that dont want to learn.

You just cant force someone to learn crap if they neaver come to school to learn a thing. I still feel the goverment and the unions are the caulpret behing the mess were in today. It started back in the late 1970's. All planed out, and working just great.....!

[DailyBail]

Under Pressure, Teachers Tamper With Test Scores

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/11/education/11cheat.html

and they have resorted to cheating for their students ...interesting article...