Thursday
Sep082011
Ron Paul Wins GOP Debate At Reagan Library - Major Polls Show Paul As The Landslide Republican Winner
All polls are still open so vote NOW in all 3:
If you locate other polls, post a link in comments and I will add them above.
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Reader Comments (35)
44% (#1 by 21% margin) Ron Paul -- http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2011/09/07/who-won-the-gop-reagan-library-debate-poll
And a pure golden gem (pun intended)...
For reasons undefined declared Ron Paul "disqualified due to voter skewing" (seriously) --
http://www.therightscoop.com/poll-who-won-the-reagan-library-debate
Another poll showing Ron Paul winning
Pray tell, who is Ronny, Oops, Polly, Oops, Shogun, Oops, StrayGun, Oops, RayGandhi, Oops, RayBan, Oops, Reagan, Ron or Con?
Just kidding.
May Allah be blessed, Oops, praised and Ronald Reagan be raised from dead. Republicans need dead leaders, now that they are realizing they haven't got any live, Oops, alive left in the arena.
Call me pessimist, egotist, nincompoop, niggardly, Nworddeletedhere, just call me.
Sid Harth@cogitoergosumshop.com
http://vortexeffect.net/category/politics/2012-elections/
Here is another one.
Another poll confirming the awakening:
http://online.worldmag.com/2011/09/07/online-poll-who-won-wednesdays-gop-debate-at-the-reagan-library/
http://www.naturalnews.com/033528_Ron_Paul_smear_campaign.html#ixzz1XNlgmyqx
Seriously thats all thes epeople have, that "they know best" and push these sorry simpleton lemming sell-out "politicians" insterested in nothing but the pocketbooks and power of their masters.
Your slave system willl have to eliminate all of us freedom-lovers eventually, and we won't go down without a fight, count on it. You're winning right now but the world will wake up and we far outnumber you psychopathic weapons of the damned
If Ron Paul is unelectable, it's because of mindless fools like yourself who believe all the bullshit the corporate media feeds you.
The millions today who think like Ron Paul and like me understand that taxes and slavery are the exact same concept and differ only symantically. This is a slave revolt to end the theft of our work, property, and money through enforced taxes, and debased fiat money.
RON PAUL won this poll too.
http://www.therightscoop.com/poll-who-won-the-reagan-library-debate/
...but they didn't like it so they made up some bull$h!t about skewing and then closed the comments section so no one could complain. The equivalent of "I'm not winning so I'm taking my ball and going home."
nice... you people at "therighscoop" are lying sacks...
Can you feel the heat!!!...oh yeah I can…one “Disqualify” is the start…just the beginning and more to come…Ron Paul…Ron Paul for the real Change…I think we have started getting attention from Media…and started to see the Media Cue…American’s are waking up…lets see how Media (who works for pyramid) stops us…
brother watch "zeitgeist addendum" or "zeitgeist moving forward" on youtube...
trust me a new world will open in front of you...and you will be standing beside Ron Paul...
it's not time to fight...it's time to be united...we are running out of time...
"Which GOP candidate do you like best?"
vote for Ron Paul
he needs our vote
"And the great owners, who must lose their land in an upheaval, the great owners with access to history, with eyes to read history and to know the great fact: when property accumulates in too few hands it is taken away. And that companion fact: when a majority of the people are hungry and cold they will take by force what they need. And the little screaming fact that sounds through all history: repression works only to strengthen and knit the repressed."
Ron Paul is quite electable, thank you very much. He's in a dead heat with Obama according to Rasmussen polls; in August, in July, and even as far back as April 2010! BTW, while straw polls are not scientific, Rasmussen polls are ... with +/- 3% at a confidence level of 95%. (Rasmussen's URLs are long; if they don't pop up, try copying the link locations and pasting them into your browser.)
Obama’s 39% to Paul’s 38% in August 2011 (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/obama_39_paul_38)
Obama’s 41% to Paul’s 37% in July 2011 (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/obama_41_ron_paul_37)
Obama’s 42% to Paul’s 41% in April 2010 (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41)
And LOOK! http://www.facebook.com/TownhallStrawPoll?sk=app_186981981345123
Here's Ron Paul again consistently in the lead ALL YEAR LONG at Townhall.com Presidential Straw Poll (http://RepublicanStrawPoll.com/). Ron Paul placed FIRST in July and June! And actually if one removes (at the time) unannounced candidates from the poll, Ron Paul won EVERY MONTH (except January ... 2nd behind Mitt Romney, and then in May ... 2nd behind Herman Cain).
And ... http://RepublicanStrawPoll.com/ has had at least 75,358 participants, according to their LIKE rating on Facebook.
Geeee, Knarfster. Things ain't looking to good for ya now, are they?
Gee , no wonder the Thug Democrat party call us "Tre-o-ists",......."Bar-Bar-Ians",......."Squm"........"Idiots"........"Lun-a-Ticks"......."Crazy-People"......"Mobs"......."Goverment Hatters"......."Tea Bag-gers"......"Douch-Bags"........"Bible- Thumpers"...."Gun Toten"....."Cyco-Paths".........
ThAre Afraid of Us. Were faceless. They cant touch us. They cant see us. They cant evan Hurt us.........Were just a In-Vis-a-ble Movment.......worse yeat, they cant control us....Its a movment that is getting so big their not sure what to try next....?
The harder they try and stomp us out, the bigger the movment becomes.
I would love to hear the talks between B Willams and bama boy, and how MSNBC is going to try and cover this one up...??? This is something they neaver planed on happening. The sheeple ARE Waking up just in time.
First of all, I would not look only to mainstream media/TV shows for your polling questions. The Gallop poll, e.g., and others similar are actual polling organizations (not "news" org.s, or 'mainstream media'). Polling orCICH 2012!
gs are much more reliable & highly regarded because they are more scientific and extensive-- but because of that, it takes them longer to do their polling. That's why you don't see them putting up any instant results on this recent debate.
Yes, the mainstream media is ignoring straw poll results where Ron Paul is concerned, that much is indisputable. These media people have become self-important entities unto themselves. They do not fact check, and if they do, they spin the facts into half-truths and beyond. If this country fails AGAIN to rise up against the clearly corrupt status quo, there is blood on the hands of the mainstream media too-- NOT just on the corrupt powers that be or the 'lazy' 'sleepy' voters of America.
And, btw, about voting, esp @Knarfster here, you are sounding like one of those people who votes for 'lesser evil'. THAT kind of thinking is what has gotten us into this mess. Ron Paul supporters with vote for Ron Paul whether he's on the ticket or not. And we do NOT apologize. If Ron Paul does not get the nomination, it will be because of people like you, who buy into this 'unelectable' crap, and who therefore are voting based on how mainstream media tells you to vote. I've heard people say that to vote for someone who is not a mainstream media/party darling is to throw away a vote. Well I completely disagree. In my opinion, a vote for 'lesser evil', is still a vote for evil, and has never come to any good. THAT 'lesser evil' vote is a throw away vote. You may as well vote for Hitler.
As to this recent debate polling & the question of deliberate 'rigging' there:
Yahoo: I don't know about Yahoo polling practices, except that I can't find the Yahoo 7 Sept. 2011 Reagan Library debate poll now-- did they take it down? And if so, why?? I have a screen shot of it, and as of 8 Sept. at 4am, the Yahoo poll showed Ron Paul winning w/35%, Perry 2nd w/24%, Romney in 3rd place w/18%, Huntsman 7%, Cain&Gingrich tied w/5%, Bachmann 4% & Santorum in last place w/2%.
NBC: The MAIN NBC First Read poll-- the one done by the people who hosted the 7 Sept. Reagan Library debate w/Politico, has by far the most participants & clearly shows Ron Paul as a landslide winner; also true in every previous debate so far-- May, June & August debates--Ron Paul won in those too, by far. It is certain& confirmed & you can still go look at it, that the MAIN NBC First Read poll bar graph is DECEPTIVE--deliberately? Probably so, because they were called on it, after which complaints they eventually did adjust it somewhat but they still by no means fixed it-- their bar graph still is nowhere near matching the numbers it is meant to visually reflect-- it is still an obvious visual MISrepresentation: the numbers clearly show Ron Paul as the landslide winner w/58.7% (128,557 votes) and Romney in DISTANT 2nd place w/14% (30,681 votes), BUT the accompanying bar graph shows Romney's 14% bar as HALF of Ron Paul's 58.5% bar. (Obviously, half of 58.7 = 29.35; 14 is not even 1/4 of 58.7, yet the bar is at the halfway point.)
(btw, Bachman is out on all the Reagan Library debate polls I've seen-- getting low single digits, usually with only Santorum behind her.)
FOX: Fox Nation's poll the last time I saw it had Ron Paul winning, but not by much, w/29.44% & Perry close behind w/28.04%, Romney distant 3rd w/10.92% very close to Gingrich w/10.07%, Cain 5.02%, Bachmann 2.36%, Huntsman 1.35%, Santorum 0.59%, and they are the only ones I've seen that have a "Didn't watch" option--12.16%. BUT, on the FoxNews O'Reilly Factor main page they have a poll that is still open for voting, which they call "No Spin Poll". It is not a debate poll. The "No Spin Poll" question there is: "Who is the strongest GOP presidential candidate at the moment?". There is no indication of when they first opened this poll, but the poll only gives you three options, in this order: Bachmann, Romney or Perry. Everybody else is DISCLUDED entirely from this Fox "No Spin Poll". Again, it appears that it is still open for voting, but as of 11 Sept, the RESULTS so far are: Bachmann 10.06% (6.013 votes), Romney 41.11% (24,585 votes), and Perry holding first place w/48.83% (29,202 votes).
So, Rigging? I'd say YES to rigging on the NBC First Read due to their woefully inaccurate & visually very deceptive bar graph; and YES to SPIN on the Fox O'Reilly so called "No Spin Poll", because it only allows us the 3 choices, with the biggest loser at the top of the list, (& it is not alphabetical), so, here again, the media presumes to mis-define or redefine a 'top tier' or the 'electable' contenders for us & we don't even get a 'none of the above' option.
Some online immediate polls are more reliable than others, as someone else here points out, because they have taken care to prevent 'cheating' e.g. duplicative voting. But, in general, the more polls you can find, the better, so that you can get a more complete/accurate idea of the results. You have to understand that there are many factors involved, e.g., the way the questions are formed, the number of people who are polled, the randomness of the samples, repeatability, etc., all these factors come together to make a poll more or less scientifically reliable. Where the pollers are most legit, they will say "This is NOT a scientific poll", and where it IS a scientific poll, legit pollers will display the margin of error, and other details about who was polled, etc., if not somewhere near the poll itself, somewhere on their site they will explain their polling precedures. (3% margin of error is excellent, but anything from 3 to 5% margin of error is considered statistically good).
PAUL/KUCINCH 2012!