President Obama's Top Scientist An Inconvenient Truth For Senate Democrats On Global Cooling

Video - Senate Hearings - Mar. 2, 2011

Jim Inhofe and Barbara Boxer spar over 1970's global cooling hysteria.  I can speak with experience on this subject.  I was in the 6th grade in 1977 and was completely indoctrinated into the hysteria by a program that was taught at my public middle school, University Elementary in Bloomington, Indiana.  As a result I soon started having nightmares about global cooling and the new ice age, and glaciers overtaking my neighborhood.  No kidding.

All of which brings up a point.  STOP SCARING THE LIVING BEJESUS OUT OF KIDS WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HYSTERIA AND DOOMSDAY SCENARIOS.  These programs begin in ELEMENTARY school these days.  A high number of kids can't handle it emotionally until they are older, say 8th grade.  I know from experience.  I turned my household of 5 (including me) into a war zone, with rebukes for family members who left lights on or otherwise wasted electricity.  I actually kept a list.  It was awful.  I was made an enviro-nazi practically overnight.  All for global cooling. 

What a waste of time.  Do not buy into the hype.  This is an agenda being pushed by groups with deeper motives.  Enough said.  And keep your eyes open for those glaciers.  They'll be coming around the corner any minute now.

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[DailyBail]

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[Cheyenne]

Right on, DB. Same story in my 6th grade classroom in 1977.

What a complete pile of misinformation, and a disservice to the students and to the taxpayers who had to foot the bill. We'd have been better off spending that effort in shop class or early SAT preparation.

I'd like to meet the people who think they know better and put a few questions to them. I wonder how many have even heard of the second law of thermodynamics.

[Dr. Pitchfork]

Really enjoyed hearing the background story on this. My son's own teachers believe the global warming crap and a few months back he started asking me if the earth would get too hot for us to live, would oceans cover the earth, etc. if we don't start recycling and stop driving cars.

He has a pretty good BS detector, but an 8-year old is helpless in this kind of situation. The one thing I told him to set him at ease was that in the 1970's everyone was worried about global COOLING and the coming of a new Ice Age.

It's so true, kids really do worry about this stuff. Probably more so today than 30 or 40 years ago.

[Cheyenne]

From the msnbc piece on Bernanke linked above...

"On Wednesday, Bernanke told the House Financial Services Committee that proposed Republican cuts could cost the economy 0.2 percentage points of growth. 'That would translate into a couple hundred thousand jobs. So it's not trivial,' he said."

There's that word again, would. What WOULD happen. It's the banksters' favorite. The economy would have collapsed without the bailouts. Etc.

And how do these people--who have horrific track records--know what WOULD have happened? They don't. Just look at Bernanke's own list of predictions that failed. Sub-prime losses will be contained, housing prices will stabilize, etc. etc. When is comes to actual predictions, Bernanke is a degenerate loser.

That's why these cowards hide behind the subjunctive voice ("would") and outright lies ("no one saw it coming").

[Greg Diablo]

AGW is the new religion. The fact that public schools foist it on children, just as unenlightened parents force the superstitious rot of religion on the undeveloped brains of their defenseless progeny, constitutes child abuse. It's such a pity that so many commentators that I respect, like Max Keiser, for example, still push this B.S.

It took me about a year to de-program myself from this crud because, like most on the so-called "left," I had an unconscious fear of being lumped in with knuckle-draggers like Inhofe and Limbaugh. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day, so wake up and smell the deception. This is just another tax scheme to bail out the banksters and their fellow travelers.

[DailyBail]

enjoyed the honesty greg...and you're right, it's just a scheme...ask blythe masters...wall street is ready to take their 20% of any and all carbon trading nonsense...

cheyenne...good stuff...nice breakdown of the bernanke piece...and interesting that you had the same experience at your school...and in the same grade...it was likely that way all across the country...

[DailyBail]

pitchfork...glad you were able to calm your son down..8 is so young to be teaching this crap to...11 is too young...not to mention the fact that it's nonsense...environmental focus is fine for elementary kids...recycle...keep the earth clean, etc...but the heavy doomsday stuff is way out of line...especially since it's make believe...

[john]

I have been invited in the past to many schools as an energy 'expert' for energy day activities and NEVER criticized other industries or filled their fragile and growing minds with BULLSHIT.... Just the facts and only facts were discussed and how different sources of energy fit into the mix. I do get a very serious hair across my ass (which is quite obvious) when others scare or use children for nefarious purposes. I have also had discussions with children about fire safety.... stop, drop and roll..... These kids are not cannon fodder nor should they have to grow up as such for the sake of some greedy bastards.

[Daily Bail]

Nice comment john...enjoyed that...

[Oberron4life]

It is astonishing how simple it is to create history. Simply "enter into the record" an absolute falsehood, "there was no consensus" about a coming ice age and there you go. New history.

Now, 25 years from now a "scholar" will read this record and suggest that there was never any such thing. Then the "historian," freshly off a campus will then add his/her editorial bent that this was simply the "extreme right wing" of the republican party and boom, all future generations get no shot at the real history.

I too lived through it and can assure you, there was every bit as much consensus then as there is now. Which may well not have been a consensus at all but was consistently reported that way. Just as it is today.

Thank God for the Internet, it gets far more difficult to create their lies.

[Dr. Pitchfork]

I too lived through it and can assure you, there was every bit as much consensus then as there is now. Which may well not have been a consensus at all but was consistently reported that way. Just as it is today.
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Exactly. Critics of the more extreme versions of AGW are legion, and yet there's a "consensus" that using incandescent light bulbs will destroy the earth. Well said, O4L.

[Michael DeNicola]

A "DISCOVERY" episode on T.V. said that the Moon is receding from the Earth at a rate of 1/2 inch per year. THAT is 5 inches just over the last 10 years. If ANYTHING would affect Global Warming THAT would (and is probably a lot more likely than all the bull.... reasons given by the Global Warmists). BUT, then again, THAT would not spur the panic money sought by them.

[Cheyenne]

I'm always amazed a different way when I watch this short crow video:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&client=mv-google&hl=en&v=TtmLVP0HvDg

That was pasted from a BlackBerry, so be forewarned.

Anyhow, this crow strikes me as exceptionally bright. If that link's bad, type crow tool food in yt.

[Texas Dar]

I wonder if thoes idiots in Washington use left handed toilet paper, or right handed toilet paper...........? One will make your ass dirty'er, and one will make your ass "More Dirty'er".........?

[Something Polish]

I remember when Mel Gibson went off on the first of his crazy rants and it appeared to me--and about anyone I knew--that Mad Mel was a crazy anti-Semite (as many of us had suspected since at least Passion). The evidence seemed pretty lock solid against him. But a number of his actor buddies (e.g., Jodie Foster) made statements denying that Mel hated Jews or anything like that, and that we should all disregard our lying eyes. I really wanted to ask Mel's friends exactly what would have to happen for them to accept that their buddy Mel is an anti-Semite. Just what would he have to say or do for them to give up denying the well documented evidence?

It's pretty analogous to the Global Warming Situation. And it breaks my heart.

[S. Gompers]

They do love to fear monger Dr. P.

All this crap is about creating the next ponzi scheme (carbon credits), another giant "casino' trading in fake shit.

[Dr. Pitchfork]

DB,

Fortunately at my son's school it was just some off-hand comments by one of the teachers, not an actual unit in How We're All DOOMED. But still...

Something Polish,

But how do we know whether Mel Gibson was a raging anti-Semite during the MWP or at the end of the last Ice Age? ;-)

[DailyBail]

@something polish...

i think you misinterpret my posts on this subject...i support environmental awareness and purpose and everything positive about the movement...but definitely not the push towards carbon credits and trading...it's a wall street owned scam...just for starters, read these on blythe masters...

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/12/woman-who-invented-credit-default-swaps.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/02/the-howling-wilderness-of-carbon-credits/70817/

http://www.truthistreason.net/blythe-masters-woman-who-invented-credit-default-swaps-is-one-of-the-key-architects-of-carbon-derivatives

[john]

Cass Sunstein on Global Warming

http://nudges.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/cass-sunstein-on-global-warming-and-barack-obama/

and here is a paper from Mr. Sunstein....

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1121781

Comment: Why do I keep seeing Harvard and Chicago mentioned all the the time? (sarcasm)

[Something Polish]

@D. Bail

It engladdens me to learn that you have joined the ranks of the Reality-Based Empiricists (tacit approval for serial dumbfuck James Inhofe notwithstanding). Huzzah!

I am aware of the pitfalls of large market-based pollution abatement schemes (red flag: The Giant Vampire Squid really really really wants that market), though not entirely convinced that they could not work. Cap 'n' Trade is not my first choice, but something ought to be done in my opinion, regardless of the inconvenient truths political realities bring.

So my questions to you become:

1. What steps should be taken to mitigate the consequences of Global Warming?
2. If you feel that no steps should be taken (because they are, on balance, too costly or for whatever reason), what would have to happen to change your mind?

[john]

I can't speak for DB, but I leave this with you.....

Jung stressed the importance of individual rights in a person's relation to the state and society. He saw that the state was treated as "a quasi-animate personality from whom everything is expected" but that this personality was "only camouflage for those individuals who know how to manipulate it",[30] and referred to the state as a form of slavery.[31][32][33][34] He also thought that the state "swallowed up [people's] religious forces",[35] and therefore that the state had "taken the place of God"—making it comparable to a religion in which "state slavery is a form of worship".[33] Jung observed that "stage acts of [the] state" are comparable to religious displays: "Brass bands, flags, banners, parades and monster demonstrations are no different in principle from ecclesiastical processions, cannonades and fire to scare off demons".[36] From Jung's perspective, this replacement of God with the state in a mass society led to the dislocation of the religious drive and resulted in the same fanaticism of the church-states of the Dark Ages—wherein the more the state is 'worshiped', the more freedom and morality are suppressed;[37] this ultimately leaves the individual psychically undeveloped with extreme feelings of marginalization.[38]

FROM: Wikipedia

[Texas Dar]

what makes Dumb Ass Gore think he knows shit about our planet and what its doing weather wise when he has only been on it for less than 65 years.

"Question".........how old is the planet earth...? How many times has it warmed up or cooled down in the last Cabazillion-years and its still here....?

The trees, plants, eat CO 24/7. So going Green is only taking away food-stuff from anything living and green. Man cutting down all the trees in the last 100 years has not helped, but our air is still clean enough to breath, thoe just barley.

The planet will go threw many more cycles long after shit head is long gone. Now, for cleanning up the planet becouse man has made a filthy mess of it is a good thing. But Al Gore spewing his shit just so goverment can tax the shit out of us, is "Bull Shit"...............

Gore has told his lyes for so long now, evan he thinks the earth is getting warmer. Good thing it is or the Ice Age we were all warned about 50 years ago would have us froze in about now. With man made $4.00 gal gas............

Reamber last year it was to be $3.50 by the 4th, but the goverment couldent get anything stired up. Well BHO got his nose into just about everything this year, and we'll see $4.50 by the 4th, just the way they planed it........

[Wayne Justice]

In my high school, there was no emphasis on global cooling. A literature search reveals that there never was a consensus on global cooling either. There was more of a consensus on global warming by CO2. It is unfortunate that some schools pushed such a thing on the students. The sad thing is, it is too short of a slice of climate history, from then till now, to even say they were wrong. Any prediction made on cooling, climate wise, in the 70s would still be valid today, In fact, it appears that global cooling is happening now. I never read or saw a precise timeline put on global cooling by a scientist. It would be foolish to do so, even now. That is up to mother nature. We have a natural warming of about 0.57 degrees C per century. Arrhenius, in 1906, predicted the change in temperature from doubling CO2 would be 1.6 degrees C. So, doubling the CO2 may raise the global temperature by an additional 1 degree C. This appears to be within a normal range of variability and does not represent unprecedented warming at all.

[Wayne Justice]

The temperature rise for the doubling of the CO2 is for the time up to 2100. Obviously, the CO2 may not double by that time and the temperature increase up to 1.6 degrees C for the CO2 component, when added into the natural 0.57 degree C increase may take an additional 100 years or even longer. This is a rough guess at best folks. Current temperature increases seem to support this. This does suggest the atmospheric warming role of CO2 may be grossly overestimated. All this now said, mother nature, in the past has shown much faster warming.

[skinflint]

Cass Sunstein on libertarian paternalism. I can't begin to explain just how creepy this stuff is and just how much trouble these people will go through to make our lives a miserable existence. This nudge theory is an extension, at least as much as I have read, Jeremy Bentham's philosophy of Utilitarianism. Make people make choices for their own good. It's a fucked up mess. John Mills tried to blend this type of philosophy with aspects of Liberty. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rewo7dPiRyU&list=PLAiTtKIpoCmodMM3c2Evvs_bNVX1DKkxJ