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Thursday
Aug202009

Peter Schiff Takes On Warren Buffett's Debt Machine

Schiff responded quickly to Buffett's NYT editorial with a broadside launched on FBN.  Schiff's thesis is the same as ours: only after advocating wasteful, borrowed stimulus spending has Buffett gotten religion on debt and deficit issues.  Excellent short discussion.

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Reader Comments (10)

Any clip with Liz Claman is a great clip.
Aug 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM | Unregistered CommenterJames H
Like how you posted the "love doll" shot of her!
Aug 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM | Unregistered Commentermark mchugh
Seriously, Shiff makes excellent points. There is no doubt in my military mind that the dollar is undergoing a gentle, negotiated slide to oblivion. We can't have people understand that though, it's more important that you think the economy is on the mend.

As for Warren, he's one of those guys with one foot in each camp:

* It's class warfare, my class is winning, but they shouldn't be.
o CNN Interview, May 25 2005, in arguing the need to raise taxes on the rich.

* There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning.
o New York Times, November 26, 2006.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

I think his highly-advantageous investments in Goldman Sachs and GE (the other vampire squid, remember?) speak for themselves.
Aug 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM | Unregistered Commentermark mchugh
I'm always looking for problems with things that I agree with because it's too easy to form teams and then ignore everything that doesn't produce a victory for the team.
But consider a few things. One, The United States is the basic model for capitalism in the world with around 25% of world GDP. Europe, which is quasi-socialist and with a long history of authoritarianism, feudalism, civil wars and ethnic cleansing, has about 30% of world GDP but no unity at all.
What's left? China and Russia, our traditional 20th century enemies, or feudal India?
If the United States implodes, then world capitalism will implode and free markets will be denigrated. In that case, currency values will probably be set by politicians, the black market and military officials, and the exchange of goods and services will become more socialistic and dictated by military force (who controls energy, water, illegal importations, etc.)
Schiff is correct nominally but he filters everything through a very simple model.
If we collapse, which is certainly possible, Europe, which is our parent, will scoff at us, hold us at a distance with a long leash, but fail dismally as an economic example just as they always have. (England is an exception and Germany for several short periods.)
What does that say for the dollar? It might simply plunge along with every other currency on the planet but at an even slower pace and everyone knows what that means.
Aug 21, 2009 at 1:46 AM | Unregistered CommenterJames Street
@Mark who wrote:

"Like how you posted the "love doll" shot of her! "

I do what I can for the troops.

And yes, Warren is conflicted except when it comes to getting a Buffett deal.
Aug 21, 2009 at 2:44 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
@JS.

That was outstanding analysis. I continue to believe the dollar will lose 5-8% annually of its value as long as our out-of-balance borrowing continues vs. the rest of the world.

When we get spending, deficits and borrowing finally controlled it will come back in favor.

Unless of course, China gets their way and a new world currency is established. In that case, all bets are off. The dollar could potentially implode.
Aug 21, 2009 at 2:49 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Thanks DailyBail, I was looking for some decent response to that Big Fat hypocrite Buffett with his narcississt op-ed in the NYTs...
Aug 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterWestWright
That was good for a laugh, WW.
Aug 26, 2009 at 1:50 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail

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