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Wednesday
Dec102014

Obamacare Chief Architect Is A Sneaky, Lying Bastard

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Having billed taxpayers untold millions for his alleged work, and then calling his clients stupid, Professor Jonathan Gruber now appears before the clients' representatives to answer some simple questions, starting with proof of his alleged work (aside from invoices, also undisclosed).

Gruber refuses to disclose his work. Any of it. The client-taxpayers won't see one document.

Thing is, Gruber doesn't have any earthly idea as to why he's refusing such a reasonable client request. He gives a 3 year-old's answer: just because.

It's downhill from there...

Q. Do you have documents?
A. Do I own documents?
Q. Do you HAVE documents?
A. Yeah, I have documents.
Q. And you’re not willing to give them to us?
A. I have all sorts of documents. I have a piece of paper in front of me. I don’t understand--
Q. Documents that relate to the questions I just asked you, Mr. Gruber.
A. I have—
Q. Do you not understand the question?

Q. Who owns those documents? Who paid for them?
A. I’m not sure.

 

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Two points about yesterday's hearing.

First, the media coverage of Gruber's wholly ridiculous and pathetic testimony is in itself pathetic. To the extent there's been any coverage at all, it's limited to rhetorical questions ("are you stupid?") and Gruber's groveling non-apology.

That's not an accident, methinks.

The examinations by Mike Turner (OH), Jim Jordan (OH), and Jason Chaffetz (UT) were all done with more skill than I've seen exhibited since Alan Grayson was ripping apart financial criminals 2 terms ago. Collectively (Grayson was alone), it was the best hearing I've seen in a long, long time. All 3 examiners kept Gruber on a real tight leash with mostly short leading questions with a few unanswerables throw in for rhetorical points.

Jonathan Gruber is a certified member of this country's criminal elite, and he got pounded into the sand yesterday by a team of examiners who were far out of Gruber's class (despite the professor's wildly inflated opinion of himself).

The media won't report that.

Second, as his simpering face was being turned into pulp, Gruber repeatedly tried to hide behind the laughable defense that his prior opinions don't count because he's just not an "expert" in politics. The notion that there's a bright line between one's expertise in various subject matter areas is ridiculous. Unfortunately, no one called him out on it. (Disclaimer: I haven't watched the entire 4-hour hearing.)

That speaks to the effectiveness of a spell that I've noticed the criminal elite casting over congress and the media, namely, that someone's putative status as an "expert" in something entitles his opinion to trump the democratic process, the principle or transparency, or even the rule of law.

This notion is completely false, and dangerous as well. It's also the height of silliness. And yet no one in congress seems to call it out. Ever.
Dec 10, 2014 at 1:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterCheyenne
@cheyenne

Right? I can't take CONgress seriously. If they don't subpoena the guy like suggested or hold him in contempt behind bars it's just another show.
Dec 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM | Unregistered Commenterchunga
Romney kept saying Romneycare was different than Obamacare and we now know the difference was $500 million a year stashed by King Kennedy.

"We had a pretty powerful senator. You may have heard of Ted Kennedy. He managed to figure out a way to rip off the federal Medicaid program to the tune of $500 million a year through a series of strange manipulations. Here was Mitt Romney's dirty little secret that we don't like to talk about in Massachusetts, which is the way we passed our law is the federal government paid for it." The federal government pays for nothing until it takes money away from everybody in the form of taxes. The federal government pays for nothing. The American taxpayer paid for Romneycare, and Ted Kennedy was behind the screw job. And Gruber wants credit for this and wants applause for this.
Gruber further went on to say, George Bush saw what was going on, and he said, "Why am I sending this Democrat $500 million a year, I’m taking it back." We're not gonna give Massachusetts $500 million a year. "Gruber explained, adding 'Mitt Romney, to his credit, went to George Bush and said, "Look, can we keep the money if we use it for universal coverage." And Bush to his credit said yes.'"

Okay, so the next phase is, Ted Kennedy finds a way to scam $500 million a year from Medicaid -- remember, it was the Republicans that were gonna cut Medicaid -- finds a way to scam $500 million, Bush finds out about, "To hell with this." And Romney says, "Wait a minute, wait a minute. What if we use that money for universal care, universal coverage?" Meaning, everybody will get covered. And supposedly Bush said, "Well, if we're gonna put it to that kind of use, then okay."

Gruber said, "We realized that we can’t do this at the state level anymore. The Feds are going to have to get involved." So Ted Kennedy was allowed to do it and get away with it and be applauded for doing it in Massachusetts, but now when we move forward to Obamacare, there's nobody to scam. Who's the federal government gonna scam, the ChiComs? Massachusetts could go to the Federal Treasury to get money; where's the US government gonna go? Borrow it or print it or what have you.
Dec 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterBackgammon
chunga--

When Chaffetz got done, there's a colloquy in which several congressmen agree that if Gruber's counsel doesn't turn over his documents, a subpoena is on the way. It's the last 60-90 seconds of the above clip. I had the same thought as you--all bark, no bite. Gruber's not gonna voluntarily hand over the docs, which aren't gonna get subpoenaed when he doesn't. Gruber knows it, too, as does congress and anyone paying the slightest bit of attention.

Backgammon--

A half a bil a year by ONE guy? If that's right--and it's certainly within the realm of possibility given the untrammeled thievery that's going on right out in the open ($60 TRILLION per year in unmonitored HSBC wire transfers just within the U.S., anyone?)--it might set a new dollar record for total media fail. Do you happen to have a link for that?
Dec 10, 2014 at 5:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterCheyenne
Im just glad the pos-sob was ratted out. And I believe it was the Congress that was to "Stupit" to stop it....?
Dec 10, 2014 at 8:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterTexas Dar
Do we know who are the people in the backround of this shot is? This girl looks really concerned. Wife perhaps?
Dec 10, 2014 at 9:52 PM | Unregistered Commenterskinflint
The guy in the lower right corner is Gruber's lawyer. Your guess about the woman is the same as mine. She looked like she was about to cry several times watching Honey get slaughtered.
Dec 10, 2014 at 10:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterCheyenne
Dec 11, 2014 at 6:21 AM | Unregistered Commenterjohn
Also was wondering if this was some sort of partisan hack job to detract. The blue team seems to be handling this with kid gloves while team red is just excoriating this guy. Not that he doesn't deserve the treatment. Excoriation I mean. The Kos people are up in arms in one facet of this thing. Have to listen to more of the team blue statement. The woman from New Mexico is just a pleasant ass kisser and Cummings is a bloviating ass kisser.
Dec 11, 2014 at 6:27 AM | Unregistered Commenterskinflint
There is a link in this story to a video of gruber bragging about writing Obamacare.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/11/6-reasons-jonathan-gruber-definitely-wrote-obamacare/
Dec 11, 2014 at 5:29 PM | Unregistered Commenterjohn
Here are some money figures re: Gruber

https://www.aei.org/publication/jonathan-gruber-6-million-stonewaller/
Dec 11, 2014 at 5:36 PM | Unregistered Commenterjohn
Hey Guys, Check out the pearl necklace. Guffaw. Now that's funny. You'd think shed wear something a little less obvious to those hearings. What are pearls worth these days. More than say a shiny piece of carbon that they sell to dupes for their wives to hang on their necks and to cut concrete with?
Dec 11, 2014 at 7:03 PM | Unregistered Commenterskinflint
Connector board members show support for Gruber

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/12/11/connector-board-members-show-support-for-jonathan-gruber-with-homemade-pins/68YD7cvFFEF47hL5upqKaL/story.html

Jonathan Gruber got some unaccustomed love Thursday morning.

On Capitol Hill earlier this week, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist and architect of the Massachusetts health care law faced withering attacks from Republicans and Democrats for his controversial comments that seemed to ridicule the American voter and denigrate the political process.


But Thursday in Boston’s McCormack Building, his image appeared at the center of a little red heart.

It was a show of support from fellow members of the Health Connector Board, who wore small, heart-shaped pins displaying a cartoon of Gruber at the board’s monthly meeting.

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Can I go puke now?
Dec 12, 2014 at 6:55 AM | Unregistered Commenterjohn
"Gruber was slapped last night with the subpoena, which was announced publicly today."

As the video shows, Gruber refused to turn over his records of work on Obamacare. He also refused to provide invoices. The subpoena seeks both.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2014/12/congressional_committee_subpoenas_jonathan_gruber_s_obamacare
Dec 13, 2014 at 11:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterCheyenne
Most time they bark at the ' mailman ' at curb from under the porch . In this scene they got up on the porch .
Dec 13, 2014 at 11:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterLonie
It should rain bankers, but sometimes you have to take what is given. http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/12/slain-massmutual-executive-held-wall-street-trade-secrets/
Dec 27, 2014 at 8:39 AM | Unregistered Commenterskinflint
Holy fuck, Skin. That is quite a find!
Dec 27, 2014 at 6:26 PM | Unregistered Commenterjohn
The family of Amschel Bauder married into
the Aldobrandini's (Pope Clement's.)

They replaced democracy, as an aspiration,
with what we know today as a banker privatizing
food/seeds and some man-hater calling (a straight guy)
gay for not liking that. It's equally calling him terrorist,
anarchist, whatever.

That broad's likely gay as is the hypocritical gay fascist
or arrogant creep she spawns owing to the gay gene passing
maternally and the fact that in the communities ruled by the
religious right that woman will marry heterosexually.

Except this also created angry masculine insecure with god complex.

Ironically, it confirmed Catholic and Jewish history.

It also proved math/morality and history are one.

It proved love is life, judging is slavery.

The User ID;

I'm actually "satellite" to someone who actually has
essentially confirmed Nostradamus' code, identified by
a separate publisher.

He used French/New French for transposing
letters.

Pascal's coefficients were inspired by the raised substitute letters.
Jan 6, 2015 at 12:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterNostradamus Codeknower
Major update:

Jonathan Gruber fired from Mass. exchange board

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jonathan-gruber-fired-from-mass.-exchange-board/article/2560729

Massachusetts' governor has fired Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber from a board that oversees the state's health insurance exchange, a source confirmed to the Washington Examiner.

Gruber ignited a controversy last December when a series of videos surfaced where the Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor discussed the “stupidity of the American voter” was vital to passing the 2010 Affordable Care Act.

Gov. Charlie Baker, a Republican asked Gruber and three others to resign from the board, a source told the Washington Examiner. The other three board members are George Gonser, John Bertko and Rick Jakious.

An immediate reason for the firing was not clear Wednesday night. The resignations appear to give Baker majority control on the exchange's board, according to Boston’s CBS affiliate, which first reported the firing.

Baker wrote in a letter to the board members that he wanted new members to "take a fresh look at" the state's exchange, called the Massachusetts Health Connector, according to a report on Twitter from Jon Keller, political analyst at the CBS affiliate.

Gruber did not immediately return an emailed request for comment.

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On that note, our own Cheyenne has a new You Tube Channel, take a moment to check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfTfsWhZi5E
Feb 26, 2015 at 6:01 PM | Unregistered Commenterjohn
That little son of a bitch will land on his feet. Hell he still has a job at MIT. He has written some nasty shit over the years and it's amazing that this piece made that much money. Maybe it's just me, I'm just sour grapes.
Feb 26, 2015 at 8:26 PM | Unregistered Commenterskinflint
The last sentence kills me. After having kicked the can down the road on the Madoff deal and then the housing crisis in which many guys were screaming from the roof tops, now comes this gem. Just another gleaming turd in the swirling bowl of our once great country.
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/02/as-madoff-airs-on-tv-two-anonymous-whistleblowers-are-pounding-on-the-secs-door-again/
Mar 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM | Unregistered Commenterskinflint

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