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Oct072011

Herman Cain: "Don't Blame Wall Street, Don't Blame The Big Banks, If You Don’t Have A Job And You’re Not Rich, Blame Yourself"

Herman Cain is the former Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve and has said publicly that the Fed shouldn't be audited, though he has changed his tune recently.

“I don’t have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself! … It is not a person’s fault if they succeeded, it is a person’s fault if they failed.”

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Herman, read this story on Wall Street crime.

Allow us to summarize the complaints emanating from Liberty and Zucotti Parks:

  1. Ongoing TRILLIONS in stealth bailouts of Wall Street via the Fed and U.S. Treasury
  2. No criminal prosecutions of financial fraud
  3. Corporate control over BOTH political parties

This isn't rocket science.  End the bailouts, put the crooks in jail, and get the money out of politics.  Problem solved, and the protests will end.

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Reader Comments (49)

It's Liz's birthday today, so we're out to dinner and more for the evening. I will check back later.
Oct 7, 2011 at 7:42 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/52686232-90/hatch-occupy-obama-leaders.html.csp#.To997pe3FMU.email

Orrin Hatch says Occupy Wall Street rallies will turn to ‘riots’
Oct 7, 2011 at 7:47 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Contrived or ignorant. Take your pick. It is truly that simple. All the Best to all who care, strive and really speak the truth.
Oct 7, 2011 at 7:54 PM | Unregistered CommenterC. Austin
ROFL - what an idiot.
Herman Cain is an elitist snob. If it weren't for profteering bandits like him, Americans would have received the bail outs instead of Americans beign charged with the bill for Herman Cain's expenses. Obscene, fascist, anti-American, anti-Constitutionalist, wanna be citizen.
If he were truely interested in helping America prosper, he would shut his mouth and act more. 10/90.
Oct 7, 2011 at 9:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterStrayhorse
Portrait of a failed candidacy.
Oct 7, 2011 at 9:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterThebes
Not only that, his pizza sucks.
Oct 7, 2011 at 10:07 PM | Unregistered Commenterj r
This comment by Herman Cain makes me so hopping mad I can hardly think. It is hard to believe these politicians and elitist jerks are so stupid and/or blind that they cannot see that the rules are stacked against the average Joe. America was once a place where a person's hard work and enterprise could get them ahead - maybe. Not so much today though... so many rules and taxes for small business, and so many tax breaks and bailouts for the ultra-rich and greedy banksters. Cain says this while corporations are given tax breaks for outsourcing US jobs.

We are in a time warp, going back to the "Guilded Age" where Snidely Whiplash along with "Captains of Industry" rule. It is these elites who survive by sucking the blood of the 99% - not the other way around! The elite are not smarter, stronger, (Social Darwinian BS!), or "better" than us. Their only advantage is that they do not have a conscience to restrict their rapacious behavior.
Oct 8, 2011 at 12:31 AM | Unregistered CommenterA_Spirtual_Journey
I couldn't watch the video but I will respond anyway. Speaking on behalf of those who know injustice on a grand scale, I speak for anyone who lost during this horrifying time. Don't Judge us until you have walked in our shoes. That's almost on the scale of me critisizing someone who is I'll or worse and bragging if I know I'm not.

I was just going to say I'm surprised he was in charge of anything let alone a reserve but anymore that would make me just as ignorant. I'm still dumstruck over Sen. Dennis K's Speach over what sounded like his version of cold fusion money to the people via congress. Or what ever he meant? I have liked him As well and now find myself just dumbstruck over so much of what I hear from people that "we the people" over time gave so much to so blindly and carelessly to. For that I will agree with him. And yes, I think sense they missused and abused it as they have. For it I also think we should take away every bit of it back and correct that mistake.

My friend sent me an email that pointed out a very interesting truth. Not so many decades ago people gathered in mass numbers before cell phones, social media and all the goodies we have today and changed major legislation. I cannot quote word for word on this but perhaps it would make for an interesting post.

Perhaps help remind us that if we just all agree here to move in a better direction together. Perhaps we might just surprise our selves that it can be done. That said DB you point the way, I'm with you. So that's one!
Oct 8, 2011 at 2:04 AM | Unregistered CommenterDave.
Where's this guy's court jester hat?
Oct 8, 2011 at 2:15 AM | Unregistered CommenterJustin
This was the email I spoke of. I think it's a very good point worth going for.

Please read to the end and hopefully you'll send along.  It would be a little too hopeful to think it could happen in 2011, but we truly do need a Congressional Reform Act even if we could get it by 2012!  Maybe this is part of the "American Spring."

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."
~ Margaret Mead



I have cleaned this e-mail from all other names, sending it to you in hopes you will keep it going and keep it clean. This is something I will fight for and I hope you all read it all the way through. You will be glad you did.

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.

I'm asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.



Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past , present &future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!! 
If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just delete.

You are one of my 20+. Please keep it going.
Oct 8, 2011 at 2:25 AM | Unregistered CommenterDave.
Donald Trump on Wall Street. Oct 5, 2011 runs one minute. Comments cleaver and condicending as any get. He may even be right about people not knowing even why they are there. That may be due to the obvious. They are there to demand to know why fraud illudes Due Process of law and nothing more? But for me, he only prooves himself to be another person on one side of this particular issue that receives airtime to protect his interests as many in his position are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBQw_usJk_4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Oct 8, 2011 at 2:53 AM | Unregistered CommenterDave.
Herman you're Right ON the Mark! Press On!
Oct 8, 2011 at 4:46 AM | Unregistered Commenterje
Haha uncle tom, uncle ruckus (boondocks- look it up, you've got internet) bastard. pass that on.
Oct 8, 2011 at 11:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterLaMagia
OK, Wall Street and the banks failed to the tune of billions...I guess it is their fault.
Oct 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM | Unregistered CommenterAl
Alan Grayson brings the hammer down:

http://www.whosay.com/BillMaher/videos/77327
Oct 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterSomething Polish
Don't miss the great clip of Alan Grayson owning a Wall Street Shill on the Bill Maher Show at http://www.whosay.com/BillMaher/videos/77327

As for Dave and any others who want to know how the government became one of, by and for the banksters and why the prosecutors will not prosecute the banksters, see my short speech at http://markadams.blip.tv/file/2636803/ and for supporting documents showing that what I say is true, see Why Does the Government Ignore Our Wishes? at http://dailycensored.com/2009/09/11/why-does-the-government-ignore-our-wishes/

If you take a look, you’ll learn why those in power and those who can improperly influence them get away with violating our rights, abusing their power, and committing horrible crimes. My article on torture includes a link to the U.S. Supreme Court case which explains how one of our stolen rights makes the difference between justice and injustice, between freedom and slavery.
Oct 8, 2011 at 1:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark A. Adams JD/MBA
Herman Cain is a very intelligent individual. He is correct when he says that it is your own fault if you are not rich.
He grew up very poorly. I grew up poorly. No one has ever given or handed me anything that I did not work for.
You can't get wealthy sitting on your butt, waiting for the Government to hand you a check. True, jobs are hard
to find, but there is always something to be done. Welfare recepients should need to pick up trash, clean
government buildings and whatever else is needed to compensate for the FREE money they receive. No one
should receive a dime that they have not done something to earn. This Country is going down the drain because
people are too lazy to work for what they need. They spend money friviously on "stuff" that is not a necessity;
expensive cars; clothing to keep up with their friends; eating in restaurants rather than cooking at home; riding the
streets when gasoline is costly and more. Get with it people. The Government is about to run out of money and I am
not willing to share my meager funds for those that are too lazy to work, expect a hand-out and waste money.
Oct 8, 2011 at 1:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterCarolyn
Herman Cain is a delusional twit. He "thinks" he's in with the elite. He "thinks" he's in with the repukelicans. He "thinks" they all accept him as "one of them". He "thinks" they all accept him as being "as good as they are". One day he will find out that he is nothing more than their "token" black who is paraded out to show that they are not racist. Like I said - delusional.
Oct 8, 2011 at 2:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterMiss Daisy
"Herman Cain is a very intelligent individual. He is correct when he says that it is your own fault if you are not rich."

Carolyn, you are right about his intelligence, however his ("it is your own fault if you are not rich.") is elite bullshit propaganda.
I know several people who worked their butts off, every bit as hard as you, and probably a hell of a lot harder, their whole lives to make sure they had a home and financial security for the time when they couldn't work any more. Intelligent parasites like Cain and more like him in government have allowed Wall Street to steal the futures of those people and throw them into the street.
I am not saying there is not some of this ( "people are too lazy to work for what they need. They spend money frivolously on "stuff" that is not a necessity;") going on, it is, but these people are not the majority.
Where I live it has become obvious, a corrupt sold out government and more corrupt even criminal actions by the corporate elite are destroying the middle class and driving working class Americans into poverty.
I'm going to have to agree with Miss Daisy, for all his intelligence ("Herman Cain is a delusional twit.')
Oct 8, 2011 at 3:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterSagebrush
HC probably does not understand the details of securitization and banking fraud. Most politicians dont.
No matter, he just committed political suicide!
Oct 8, 2011 at 7:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterKim
Hi, Sagebrush: I agree with you; I am not totally correct. We all have flaws and it will be a difficult job to find someone that can go into the White House and "fix" all that has been damaged. Probably will never be able, even in years and years
to come, to get our Country back up, running and making it the great place to live, again. We allow too many illegal aliens into our Country; allow non-citizens to have rights that our own people do not have; take from our Government to help those
illegals and let our own people go needy. The root of all evil is GREED - .............. thanks for your response to my comment.
Oct 8, 2011 at 7:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterCarolyn
I think the economy would start getting rosier if the Government, while buying support (New Deal-style) programs, which I support, did so not with money lent from banks using free reserves at the expense, by way of Liquidity Trap, of the earning power of your own savings, including the tax-locked retirement nest eggs, all the while the mis/mal-feasant banks want to privatize your Social Security, and including at the expense of the earning power of the savings of all those who made good decisions, unlike the smug stupid bankers who in fact, despite what Mr. Cain (world's greatest overachiever?) says, caused the crisis.
You otherwise just might as well hand the banks your money, ask them to give a little back to you, and go lay some pavement repair material.
Oct 8, 2011 at 7:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterIckyFollowed ByBicky
The Illegal aliens bit is a wedge issue the parade in your face to distract you from what's really going on. You'd realize this if you actually researched the matter. Most illegals pay taxes. Most of them are terrified of being sent back, so they don't exactly show up at government institutions demanding things. Not saying it's right that they're here, but every illegal I've known worked their asses off and certainly weren't collecting welfare. They get demonized as a scapegoat to keep certain right-wing masses focused elsewhere.
Oct 8, 2011 at 7:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterETM
If I knew nothing else about him and just this, "this" does say it all,..... add this to everything else we know about him and he has certainly invalided himself as someone that will serve the people of this country, I am outraged my business died directly due to the Government bullcrap that's been increasingly destroying the small business man a moron like this has no place running this country,,,,, he may be black but he is a good ole boy nonetheless.
Oct 8, 2011 at 8:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterGary
Can I get a brotha get a two? LOL.
Oct 9, 2011 at 2:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterDave
SO MR.CAIN ......CAIN HE RAN ONE OF THE FED REV'S? OMG...ANOTHER BOUGHT AND SOLD GUY. HUMMM YOUR REPBULICAN FRIEND CANT FIND A PRES. HOPEFULL LOOKS LIKE, WE STATED WITH LET'S SEE TRUMP DADDY LEFT HIM 100 MILLION, MIT THE MORMAN DOES HE PRAY WITH THE GOLDEN TAB'S?, BACHMAN THE WAKO AND HER HUSBAND OMG. PERRY OH THAT RIGHT HE OPEN HIS MOUTH AND WE FOUND OUT HE;S A FLAT LIER, GINGRICH AS CORRUPT AS THEY COME SEE HIS RECORD... CAIN ... FED RESERVE BANKSTER, DAMN I THINK THE REPUB'S MIGHT LOSE BY DEFAULT THEY CAN'T FIND ANYBODY? i THOUGHT THEY WERE THE SMART GUYS HUMMMMMM I KNOW WHATS GLEN BECK DOING NOW? OH THATS RIGHT HE'S A STAGE ACTOR WITH ZERO EDUCATION, LET NOT FORGET PALIN THE "C"AVG. GRADES THAT THINKS CAN'T NAME THE FOUNDING FOR FATHERS AND WELL SEE KNOW COMPLETE IDIOT GOLLY GEE WIZZZZ..
HERE WE GO AGAIN ....... OKAY.... I CAN GET REALLY DEEP AND WRITE ABOUT FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING MR. CONGRESSMAN AND PRES. HOPEFULS REPULCIANS FRIENDS AND FOX TV AND RADIO.... RUSH ....ETC. YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT OR DEBATE ME WOULD YOU? SO LETS MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR YOU. SO ALL YOU CAN UNDERSTAND SIMPLE THIRD GRADE GRAMMER. OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO WHY MILLIONS AROUND THE WORLD ARE PROTESTING? SIMPLY THE PEOPLE NOW KNOW HOW YOU RIPPED THEM OFF AND THEIR PISSED YOU TOOK OUR MONEY BUY CHEATING AND STEALING...AND WE WANT IT BACK!
SO IT ALL STARTED WHEN THE BANKS CREATED MORTGAGES THAT THEY KNEW HOME BUYERS COULD NOT PAY BACK..... THEY TOOK OUT INSURANCE POLICES THAT SAID THEY WOULD GET 90% OF THE MONEY IF HOME OWNERS DEFALTED. CALLLED CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS. OR OPTIONS OR WE CAN GO ON AND ON .....
YOU GUYS WALL ST AND BROKERS ENDUCED HOME BUYERS AND SAID.... NO MONEY DOWN AND HALF THE P-AYMENT FO THE BIG HOUSE OR 20% DOWN AND DOUBLE THE PAYMENT ON THE LITTLE HOUSE.... OH' THE BIG HOUSE WILL GO UP A LOT MORE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS SO REFINACE IT NO PROBLEM......WE'LL APPRASE THE HOME HIGH AND LET YOU FINANCE 110% WE'LL EVEN GIVE YOU SOME MONEY BACK.....OH DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR CREDIT AND PROOF OF INCOME OR A JOB NO PROBLEM.......
AIG WAS ONE OF THE INSURANCE CARRIERS OF THESE POLICIES. WHEN AIG SAID NO WE'RE NOT PAYING ANY MORE. THE THE INVESTMENT BANKS GOLDMAM AND OTHERS THAT WE'RE SELLING THESE MORTGAES ALL OVER THE WORLD WITH THE OMG THIS IS THE BEST INVESTMENT EVER. WENT SIDE WAYS.....BUT WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH DON'T WE. THE MONEY WAS CREATED BY THE SIGNITURE OF THE GOOD HOME OWNERS BY DEBT THAT CREATED THE MONEY THRU THE FED REV,THAT OKAYED IT AND STAMPED IT GOOD TO GO TO THE BOYS THAT PRINT THE MONEY. OH AM I GETTING AHEAD OF MY SELF FOR YOU...SORRY.
SO BOTTOM LINE BANKSTERS TOOK OUT INSURANCE POLICIES KNOWING HOME OWNERS WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PAY BACK AND TOOK OUT INSURANCE POLICIES SAYING IF POEPLE DEFAULT WE WANT 90% OF THE MONEY AIG STARTED TO PAY AND THEN SAID THIS IS BS... THE BANKS MADE BILLIONS ON THE INSURANCE AND THEN THE MONEY WENT DRY.
OUT OF MONEY. AIG OUT OF MONEY. BUT AIG INSURED AIRLINERS, SHIPPING, OIL WELLS, CARS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING AND SAID OK IF YOU WANT US TO FAIL AIRLINES WILL SHUT DOWN AND ALL OF THE ABOVE BANKS SAID OMG.... AND TOLD THE FED GOVERNMENT WE NEED MONEY(CAPITOL) WE'RE OUT OF MONEY AND CAN'T PAY OUR BILLS..... NOW CHINA AND RUSSIA, MEXICO AND OTHERS SAID OH NO TOO. THEY TOLD OUR CONGRSS AND THE PRESIDENT WE WILL CALL IN ALL OUR MONEY BONDS THAT CREATED THE MONEY......WE WANT OUR MONEY ...OF COURSE WE DON'T CARRY THAT MUCH CASH ON HAND AND OMG ... TRANPORTATION IS GOING TO STOP, PEOPLE WILL WANT THEIR MONEY FROM THEIR SAVINGS ACCT'S NOW AND ALL THE COUNTRIES WANT THE MONEY FROM BONDS.... OUR WORLD ECONOMY WAS READY TO COMPETELY COLAPSE... MEANING THE DOLLAR BILL WOULD BE WORTH NOTHING. SO BUSH A MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION SAID TO CONGRESS AND THE PEOPLE WE NEED THE TAX PAYERS TO HELP US GIVE US MONEY CAUSE WE CANT PAY OUR BILLS ... SO WE HAD TO BAIL THEM OUT WITH OUR MONEY TAX PAYERS MONEY....... SO YOU WONDER WHY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE PROTESTING THINK WE;RE STUPID RIGHT,,,, NO WE ARE NOT STUPID YOU AND ALL YOU IN CONGRESS AND THE WALL ST GUYS KNEW THIS WAS COMING AND MADE BILLIONS WHILE US FOLKS THE POEPLE PAID YOUR BILLS CAUSE YOU CHEATED AND GOT CAUGHT IN YOUR GREED COULD NOT PAY YOUR BILLS KOWNING ALL THE WHILE YOU WERE SCAMING US WITH YOUR MORTGAGES..... EVERYONE GOOGLE THE CREATION OF MONEY AND YOU WILL SEE HOW THEY BUILT THE FIELD ..... AND FOX TV IS THE BIGGEST BRAINWASHER LEADING US TO BELIEVE IT'S OBAMS FAULT OMG. STILL TO THIS DAY .... IT'S A JOKE..... THEY DID IT BY DESIGN CAUSE THE TRUTH IS THE BANKS NOW HAVE 70 % OF THE WEALTH HUUUUMMMMM ..... WHO WANTS TO DEBATE ME? BRING IT ON ANY PRES CANITDATE TO I DON'T CARE .....THIS IS THE SHORT VERSION, WAIT TILL YOU HERE HOW YOU NEVER GOT A LOAN IN THE 1ST PLACE........ CROOKS ALL OF THEM ..... OH LETS NOT FORGET THE RATING AGENCYS LIKE MOODYS THAT STAMPED AAA PAPER WHEN THEY KNEW IT WAS NOT........ AND ON AND ON AND ON
Oct 9, 2011 at 2:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterRION O
BOOO - HISSSS @ Cain.

(Happy belated Birthday to Liz)
Oct 9, 2011 at 10:04 AM | Unregistered Commenterchunga
Thanks Chunga. As for this clip, I think sagebrush got it right. There is some small bit of truth in what Cain said, but he blew it by saying 'don't blame wall street, don't blame the big banks..."

As Simon Johnson has explained, the banks caused the crisis, and the crisis caused the recession, and the recession created massive unemployment and exploded the national debt.

http://dailybail.com/home/the-wsjs-evan-newmark-a-former-goldman-sachs-executive-think.html

http://dailybail.com/home/simon-johnson-tax-the-bastard-bankers-until-they-bleed-and-c.html

http://dailybail.com/home/simon-johnson-destroys-the-myth-of-jamie-dimons-bernanke-com.html
Oct 9, 2011 at 12:05 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Hi Carolyn, your right about flaws, when I take honest look at myself I realize I have plenty of them I need to work on.
If we could get people in government that defend the Constitution, work to improve the whole country and actualy work for the people who vote for them, it would be a good start to (" fix all that has been damaged").
I think Dylan Ratigan's ( Get the Money Out of Politics) may be the best chance we have right now to get that ball rolling.
Elite supporters like Cain will not fix anything or even try. They give their services and allegiance to moneyed minority, not the American Majority. Truth is they gotta go, and the sooner the better.
Oct 9, 2011 at 2:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterSagebrush
Nice one Sage.
Oct 9, 2011 at 3:29 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Hi, Sagebrush: Again, I have to say that you are right. I enjoy your comments and thoughts. We all need to listen and hear
as much from others, regarding candidates for President. Healthy comments and what others think can really help when
a decision needs to be made. We all need to make thoughtout decisions, vote for the individual that will help our Country and those of us who care and love where we live. The best bet at the present time is to vote against anyone holding an elected office. Those who sit with their mouths closed, not speaking up for those that voted them in, are just as guilty as those that speak up and make idiots of themselves. Keep up your comments. I will certainly read them.
Oct 9, 2011 at 6:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterCarolyn
Thanks D.B. and Carolyn, and Carolyn your right again, till we get the corruption out of our electoral process, vote every incumbent out, every election. If they do a good job, maybe give them another term down the road, but for now till the corrupt mess we have for a government is cleaned up, vote them all out every time.
Oct 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterSagebrush
The protesters that have no clue why they are thAre, and look like a hippi-convention, are there becouse they follow the group or have friends that know why they are there.

It sadens me that the MSM only show them. It gives the sheep a mind set that the whole croud is like them. We know that, but the coments from my friends that only know what they see, scares me.

Ya cant go into it with them becouse their mind is already made up............How Sad is That ?

*********** "Happy Birthday Liz" ************ now DB needs to get back to work.............Luv-Ya's Tex !
Oct 9, 2011 at 8:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterTexas Dar
Smart Ass, HC.........he can talk big alright. He made it when making it was eazy if you worked hard and dident give up.......anybody can talk shit when you made it back in the 70's-80;s..............

Anybody can talk crap after you made it 30 years ago..............
Oct 9, 2011 at 9:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterTexas Dar
Hey Carolyn, i was poor growing up, my mom was an illegal once, but has since gained citizenship, when she came to this country, just like the irish, welsh, scottish counterparts, 100 years ago, the difference is she was treated like shit simply because of the color of her skin. im sure your ancestors went through the same scrutiny my peeps are going through now then. i am an american (anchor baby or what ever you want to call it) who went to school, went to college, and now am weary of losing my job, because the goverment "has no money", however you do not care about what you do or where you live, because you spread hatred, which is cool, until the knife is on your neck, you see just like Damian Marley (Bob Marleys son, im sure you dont know who he is, racist dont have the capacity to learn about other cultures: FACT) said "you pay no mind to the youth, because its not like the future depends on it" and like it or not these anchor babies, who work thier ass off and have everything taking away from them, are this countries youth, american citizens. now that that has been said, that is regardless of the fact, work hard, try to achieve the american dream, and receive the american nightmare, not just for migrants, immigrants, but also for americans. you have the balls to write that cain is right, haha he's right alright, right wing. hope you find REAL FAITH because your god isnt helping you. ATEO. oh and TEXAS DAR, those people aren't as stupid as you are, excuse me, as you think. and it sounds like your describing yourself, the corporate media, the government(Both DEMOS and REPOS), and the tea party. PS WHY ON EARTH IS THERE A BAIT CAR? AND NOT A BAIT WALLSTREET???? HMMMMM?????
Oct 10, 2011 at 1:03 AM | Unregistered CommenterLaMagia
Dear LaMagia: I feel ashamed for you, because I never spoke badly about anyone. If you are an illegal alien, from any country other than the one you are living in, The United States of America, you NEED to apply for citizenship and make
yourself legal. No other country allows aliens to come in and take over their country; you would be jailed in any other
country, so there is no reason that the USA should be any different. The USA is "used", like the parent that never
made or allowed their child to GROW UP and make a life for themselves, the parent tends to take care of the child forever.
We, the USA, cannot take care of all other countries when we have children, seniors and others that are starving right
under our noses, everyday. No other country comes to our aid, now and never will. It is expected that the USA will hand
out money and help in disasters and such, but when has another country helped the USA. Our country has had tremendous
casualties and castrophies in the last ten years. No, not any other country has offered to help us. So, while you speak
negatively about me, you don't know me. I was born in the USA. No family member of mine has ever received WELFARE, which is money, etc received that we have not worked for. We are not rich; have had to struggle and the efforts have made us an better PEOPLE. It is not possible to apologize for another, but I will try to do that for you, when I say my prayers.
Oct 10, 2011 at 9:53 AM | Unregistered CommenterCarolyn
LaMagia, why do you insinuate you were 'treated like shit' for the color of your skin? I grew up poor and was 'treated like shit' and my background is Scandinavian. In fact being blond/blue eyed in Canada just means the minorities have the right to discriminate against me (Canadian Human Rights Code section 16(1)). Spare us the fuckin drama.
Oct 10, 2011 at 11:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterCanuck
Carolyn u didnt read my entire post, so read my next one, its specifically for you P.S. MY APOLOGIES TO TEXAS DAR, I didnt read your text and jumped on you, because i was heated due to carolyns comments. you have the right idea brother...



Carolyn, concerning us helping other countries, and countries not helping us, three reasons, ready:

Reason 1: we have, in your faith's word, we are blessed, christ said help if you have and before you say we dont have anymore, we are not Somalia, Africa, Haiti, South America, Mexico, even Japan. that doesnt mean that these banks should take just because of that reason.

Reason 2: Other countries don't have, at least not as much as us.

Reason 3: You ready wannabe patriot, We attack, bully, occupy countries, and pay them money when they really need it (which we should do because natural disasters are a bitch), and expect them to help us!!!!! r u nutz!?!?!?

to give you an example you will comprehend: if your PARENT beat and raped you constantly, but fed you when you almost starved to death (really need aid ex. tsunamis, earthquakes, etc.) it wouldnt matter, the chance you get to kill your parent you will. i understand WE THE PEOPLE didnt do this to these countries, but our GOVERNMENT DID, with peeps like you behind it. and in their eyes we were culprits (dont blame them, but will fight them)

Example, we went to afghanistan, and iraq, killed many innocents, fucked their countries up, and it is now common knowledge 9/11 was set up.
http://gators911truth.org/PDF/FBI-Gage-DVD-NEW.pdf IT STATES TWIN TOWERS WERE DEMOLISHED and the FBI acknowledges it HA.


but wait....... theres more, the next post is also for you READ THOROUGHLY, then RESPOND, otherwise your wasting my time in explaining it twice.
Oct 10, 2011 at 11:52 AM | Unregistered CommenterLaMagia
CANUCK IF YOU WERE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THEN YOU OF ALL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, NOT SHOULD UNDERSTAND, NOT MAYBE UNDERSTAND, YOU WERE POOR LIKE I, YOU WERE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, AS WAS I AND MY FAMILY. THIS ISNT ABOUT RACE, IT WAS ABOUT OWV, IT WAS MADE ABOUT RACE WHEN CAROLYN STATED ILLEGALS TAKE EVERYTHING, BUT NOT ADDRESSING CORRUPTION LIKE
http://newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com/Legal/News/2011/09_-_September/Maxim_Healthcare_reaches_$150_million_fraud_settlement/ INSTEAD SHE ATTACKS ILLEGALS, WHICH IF SHE DID HER RESEARCH, LIKE ETM STATED PAYS THEIR TAXES. IF YOU PAY TAXES, YOU GET BENEFITS.

AND ANOTHER THING, HOW IN THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO SAY I INSINUATED THIS, NO STUUPPPIIDD, ITS TRUE BECAUSE I HAVE WITNESSED IT, AND TRUST ME IM NOT DRAMATIC, IM HORRIFIC, (TRUST ME YOU WOULD NEVER SAY THAT IN MY FACE) THIS WASNT ABOUT WHITE OR BROWN, BUT ITS CLEAR EVEN YOU SHOW PREJUDICE, JUST BECAUSE YOU WENT THROUGH IT, FOR JUST A BIT, IT DOESNT MEAN YOU ACT LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE AND IT DOESNT MEAN YOU SHOULD DUMB IT BACK, NO YOU SHOULD SLAP IT BACK EVERYTIME IT HAPPENS, WHETHER ITS WHITES SKIN BLUE EYED SCANDANAVIAN, MEXICANS, MUSLIMS, JEWS, GAYS, NATIVE AMERICANS. FOR YOU I WONT SPARE ANYTHING, I SHOULDNT SPARE MY NUTS IN YOUR MOUTH BECAUSE IM SURE YOUR A TEABAGGER HAHAHA.


PLEASE DONT ACT LIKE YOUR DISCRIMINATION IS ANYTHING LIKE OURS, HA ITS NOT


OH AND I LOOKED UP CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS CODE SECTION 16.1
NO WHERE DOES IT SAY ANYONE COULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST YOU LIKE YOU ALLEGE
IT STATES ABORIGINES GET FIRST DIBS,ON JOBS WHICH IF YOU DID YOUR RESEARCH, NOT EVEN, IF YOU READ HISTORY IT IS THEIR ANCESTORS LAND HAHA


AND EVEN IF THEY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST YOU, HITLERS PERFECT IMAGE, ITS ONLY BECAUSE YOUR ANCESTORS DID IT TO THEIRS, PAYBACKS A BITCH, EVEN GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS LATER. OUR CHILDRENS CHILDRENS WILL FIND THAT OUT


SPREAD POISON, EAT SHIT AND DIE!!!!
Oct 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterLaMagia
We allow too many illegal aliens into our Country; allow non-citizens to have rights that our own people do not have; take from our Government to help those
illegals and let our own people go needy- CAROLYN, yeah you never scapegoated anyone right.

when you blame illegals when maxim healthcare robs medicaid for hundreds of millions of us taxpayer dollars. u r attacking people. listen to ETM sugar, do your research, your obviously wrong any way you spin it, whether you blame illegals, or you say Cain is right, this movement is bigger than you and me, so leave your bias at home and dont try to attach it to the movement, this isnt about race religion or political affiliation, this is about the super criminals at wallstreet getting what they deserve.

oh and sweetey (u see how i discriminate against you for being a women ; ) ) dont feel ashamed for me i can do that for myself when necessary, however now its unwarranted. I do however feel sorry for you, because when you pray, you will never get a response haha αθεοι look it up, its not spanish, its Latin (Greek)
Oct 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterLaMagia
LaMagia, why don't you take your crap to a site where somebody gives damn about your poor me bullshit. Your more of a racist than any of the white bigots I know. And I can't stand them ether.
Oct 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterSagebrush
HUH SAGEBRUSH???


i nvr said poor me, u cant read either,i didnt involve, race, ur gurl carolyn and canuck did, get it straight sagebrush, im not here to be racist, i simply call them out when i see them, get your shit straight, im here to down herman, and to support, it seems ya'll are here to divide, and choose who should be on occupy wallstreet,
please prove someones a racist before you accuse them of it

i can prove your peeps are, can you prove me racist?

im more of a racist than the white bigots you know, haha, yea im the one discriminating right, scapegoating right sure bud keep telling yourself that

please go back and read, everything i wrote, from the beginning, u might have a different outlook
Oct 10, 2011 at 2:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterLaMagia
LaMagia: Why are you so hostile and angry? I never mentioned race in my comments. Anyone can be an illegal alien - even
someone from out of space. You have made yourself a racist. What I was saying is: I am tired of our Country being invaded
by people who have no rights in our Country. It is great that your Mother was an illegal once and got citizenship - then, why
are you not a citizen? If you are, I have no problem with My government helping if you are in need. This Country was founded
on religion - religion that could not be practiced - our ancestors came to America so that we could have the freedsoms that we are so fortunate to have today. IT IS OKAY FOR FOREIGNERS, ALIENS AND WHATEVER THEY ARE CALLED, TO COME
TO AMERICA AND ENJOY OUR FREEDOMS. But, there is a stopping point when they come, take from the citizens who were born and raised here and take our rights away. Is there a problem with becoming a citizen of the USA? Or, do you think it is
proper to come here and become a squatter, receive welfare and free handouts, free medical care, while the citizens are left
lacking in those areas. Yes, we are a charitable country, but charity begins at home. I freely donate and help support various orgainizations that help the needy. I enjoy volunteering to help others. BUT, it is wrong when I leave my own family at risk to help those that are living off the USA and are illegal.. GO GET YOUR CITIZENSHIP AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUESTION ME ABOUT ANYTHING PERTAINING TO MY COMMENTS. Otherwise, I have nothing more to say to you. You can comment at your best, but I will not respond to your comments because they are "nothing" to me. And, a large bar of soap would greatly help your foul mouth. Perhaps a lesson in English and Spelling would also help to make sense of your comments. And, you have no control over my vote. I will vote for whomever I please, be it Cain, Romney, Perry, Gingrich or
anyone else. You have a great day and take a rest from being so angry.
Oct 10, 2011 at 2:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterCarolyn
My Opinion: I Agree if your here illegally you don't deserve to strain our system, but as i have stated before, if you pay taxes (which many illegals do) do your research, then they deserve benefits, your attacks demonize illegals. We both know that the majority of illegals are from Mexico. for you to say it isn't racist is like saying the tea party originally hated Obama because he's half white, its so obvious im seething through my teeth, and please, asking me to use my proper English, to talks shit about me, haha your not racist, i dont stand to separate as you do, if you read my previous posts, i stand for all, you blame illegals as a scapegoat, yet there is Maxim robbing the medicaid system, to show you, you really dont care who robs medicaid because you only focus on illegal aliens, vote for who you want. its clear what this websites agenda is.....


when i first started coming here it was to read upon OWS, and it was my understanding that race religion and political affiliation was irrelevant because it would yet again divide us however i have noted that this is not the case

VOTE RON PAUL

ILLEGALS ARE TO BLAME

PREY TO JESUS

remember separation of religion and state THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS ATHIEST, FOUNDED ON RELIGION MY ASS....

please it is not you who will not post , it is me, indeed i will find a true website where these values are not to be followed
i'd die before i vote republican and if thats how ya'll want it i will just vote OBAMA 2012, be racist, and curse your god. that is all oh and shove that bar of soup... to not be vulgar...... where the sun don't shine, to show you how ignorant you are, you choose to speak of ILLEGAL ALIENS on a HERMAN CAIN TALKS SHIT ABOUT AVERAGES JOES LIKE YOU AND ME PAGE. Vote for whoever i honestly dont give a fuck, your bullshit will do the job of MSM and divide us before we even start. PEACE BE WITH YOU, PRAISE ALLAH MUAHAHAHA-sincerely αθεοι
Oct 10, 2011 at 5:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterLaMagia
This site was a good site for comments, prior to those that use vulgar and nasty language.
There is no need for profanity. Perhaps those that are doing that have too much time on
their hands; need to get a job and stop becoming angry for no reason. It is those that
ruin sites and keep others from commenting. Please discontinue the profanity, thanks.
Oct 10, 2011 at 6:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterUnknown
oh and TEXAS DAR, those people aren't as stupid as you are, excuse me, as you think. and it sounds like your describing yourself,

Thank You for "Un-Slamming Me"..and you may be right about me, unlike the collage kids im down on for their looks....

I had to drop out of my 2nd year of high school to take care of my brother n sisters. My mom went into the sic-ward with a nervous break down from being beat night after night by my step dad. Landing at the bottom of the basement steps.

So I neaver got to go back to school, so you may be right thAre.......I cant spell Wothtestes a Carp..........?

....one thing these kids are not is stupid... Just becouse they are smart dosent mean they aint lost. Please check out this link. This dose scare me, becouse the movment is being hijacked and these kids sure dosent help the movment.......

Apparently, there are now teenagers and young adults who have descended upon Wall Street in an effort to turn the gathering into a rave. With a “sex, drugs and rock and roll” mentality apparently infiltrating the protests, Mail Online reports:

Among the banners and flags are now discarded packets of condoms, cigarettes and bottles of spirits, while naked youngsters happily get together with just sleeping bags covering their modesty.

A box of free condoms is kept in the main area where protesters are camping.

If this is an accurate description of the conditions on the ground, it sounds more like Woodstock than it does a political movement. On Friday, alone, more than 400 people were at the makeshift city and sex was apparently a rampant occurrence.

http://patriotupdate.com/13147/sex-drugs-poor-sanitation-eclipsing-occupy-wall-street
Oct 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterTexas Dar
Black mans car breaks down when driving through Ohio country side. Up the road are two houses on opposite sides of road. The right house has the black homeowner cutting his yard. The house on the left has a Mexican man cutting his yard. Which person will the broken down Black man approach? We are ALL racist to some degree. Anyone who states they are not being truthful with themselves. I have Mexican neighbors, white neighbors, and black neighbors. Each of us have our stories. Poor, on welfare, fatherless, adopted, molested, jailed, worked as a child, or mistreated by some class of people. I have been all of the above, our solution is not to base our votes on people because of their Religion, color, party, or personality. Both parties are more similar, than they are different. We MUST rid our politics of Big Money contributions, which began the failure of election process, we now have. Big Corps. have guided the system, more and more as years have past. Now they decide, (by financing their campaign) which two people of their choosing, we get to vote for, as their "in man". They cannot "loose" and we cannot win, it's rigged from the beginning, with this current system. If either party would have as "number one" at the top of their platform agenda, Campaign Reform. No B.S. They have my vote. It's been an issue before, just as "close Gitmo" "end the war", but it is all campaign rhetoric. I am talking about the only real solution to begin to solve our government problems. , otherwise we will never have an equal and balanced government, for the people.
The only other way is a Revolution, and it will be bloody, and terrible. But if you have a better solution, my mind is listening.
Otherwise you may be supporting a hidden agenda, as we have been duped into many times before.
Peace......
Oct 10, 2011 at 11:10 PM | Unregistered Commenterthabul
Who the fuck does this guy think he is...Bill Clinton?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/07/fourth-accuser-cain-reached-for-my-genitals/

"Don't blame the women, don't blame the bitchez, Herman Cain for Prez cause he can't keep on his britches"
Nov 7, 2011 at 3:44 PM | Unregistered Commenterjohn

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