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Bush: War Is The Engine Of Our Economy (VIDEO)

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Forget Oliver Stone and politics for a minute, and just watch this clip.  Stone is interviewing former President of Argentina, Nestor Kirchner.  He relates a personal conversation with GW from Monterrey, Mexico in January of 2004.

Anyone needing any more proof regarding the ingrained power of the military-industrial complex is advised to contact the Bushes in Crawford, Texas.  And then call on fellow war-monger Deficit Obama, who has long since broken his promise for a quick pullout from Iraq and Afghanistan.


From Ryan Grim

President George W. Bush argued in 2004 that the best way to grow the U.S. economy was by waging war, according to former Argentine Prime Minister Néstor Kirchner.

Kirchner, in a meeting with Bush, suggested that the United States replicate the successful nation-building strategy it implemented at the end of World War II.

"And he stood up from his chair and got angry. He told me, 'A Marshall plan! No! That's a crazy idea from the Democrats. What needs to be done here, and the best way to revitalize the economy is -- the United States has grown based on wars,' he told me. That's what he told me," Kirchner recounted.

Bush added, said Kirchner, that "all the economic growth that the U.S. had had, had been based on the different wars it had waged."

Kirchner held a 50-minute meeting in Monterrey, Mexico with Bush in January, 2004.

"War? He said that?" Stone asked Kirchner, who was among a wave of progressive leaders elected in Latin America over the last decade.

"He said that, word for word," Kirchner assured Stone.

Stone followed up: "Is he suggesting that Latin America should go to war?"

No, said Kirchner. "Well, he was talking about the United States, never said South America. That the United States -- that it was a misunderstanding of the Democrats, that all the economic growth that the U.S. had had, had been based on the different wars it had waged."

The Kirchner interview is done through a translator and the subtitles on the screen don't exactly match what Kirchner was saying, but more closely reflect how his comments were being translated at the time. The Huffington Post had three separate native Spanish speakers translate Kirchner's remarks. His comments above are the result of those translations.

If Kirchner is accurately relaying the comments, that would make Bush the highest-ranking public official to state outright that war is and has been good for the American economy.

Bush with Kirchner in 2004 when the discussion allegedly took place...


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Reader Comments (22)

I think Bush would have done better stoned and drunk everyday ,Then he would have had a excuse.
GW sure got the economy going from war .well i guess if you are a GW buddy you got rich from it.
Jul 29, 2010 at 2:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterJTS
"If Kirchner is accurately relaying the comments, that would make Bush the highest-ranking public official to state outright that war is and has been good for the American economy"

Indeed, that's EXACTLY what Nestor Kirchner said. So what? GW Bush could openly admit to ass-raping a 3 year old baby and NOTHING would ever happen to him.

That's because ACCOUNTABILITY no longer exists in the U.S of A.

Now that your government has shifted its attention to ass-raping YOU (American citizens) instead, learn to love it! There's a LOT more coming your way.

Jul 29, 2010 at 4:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterRecoverylessRecovery
I think we have hit a new low here. I really am at a loss for why this is worth posting. In my view, it has no redeeming value. It is pure fluff, sorry, I know this post will be unpopular around here.

hearsay evidence…

Oral or written testimony about an out-of-court statement attributed to someone other than the testifying person. Such evidence is generally inadmissible because the person to whom the statement is attributed cannot be cross-examined to ascertain its factual basis. However, there are numerous exceptions to this rule, such as admissibility of first-hand hearsay evidence in certain civil proceedings.

Oliver Stone was the director on “W”, give me a break. This guy has more vitriol for Bush than Al Gore and John Kerry combined.

Let’s take a look…Stone is often compared to Mel Gibson…
Irritated and jaded!!!

Oliver Stone apologizes…

I don’t know who Ryan Grim is but he works for HUFFINGTON POST & Politico and often goes on RATIGAN and, ha, The Young Turks (insert shock and awe here), what a surprise – NOT!

Ryan Grim…OP-ED>>>Mayberry Machiavellis: Obama Political Team Handcuffing Recovery…

“Under the leadership of President George W. Bush, science, empirical evidence and expert advice struggled to be heard above the din of politics.” Hmmmm, he appears to be just a little bit biased.

Then he writes…” Today, a new band of Mayberry Machiavellis has gained control, counseling President Obama to ignore the advice of his economic team and press forward with deficit reduction ahead of job creation. Hmmmm, I know he is for legalizing pot, maybe he was high when he wrote this.

Legalize and tax drugs…especially pot…”after it becomes a mess…” (funny stuff)…
Is that what Obamacare will look like…ha…most likely.
Jul 29, 2010 at 6:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
z...forget the interviewer...listen to he that is being interviewed...this is your greatest weakness as a political analyst...you are driven by hatred of democrats and love of republicans and it clouds your judgement to your own peril....this is a huge story...read what ryan grim wrote...discussing the analysis of kirchner's spanish...

i have absolutely no doubt kirchner is telling the truth...and it demonstrates the evil of GW...willing to fight wars, kill soldiers and civilians all to help the economy grow...it's disgusting and confirms everything i already knew to be true about the power of the military-industrial complex...which you, as a badge-wearing neo-con, with aspirations to bomb iran, of course embrace, and celebrate...

i frankly think it's disgusting...
Jul 29, 2010 at 6:23 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Yes, it is all about credibility...

Jul 29, 2010 at 6:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
Jul 29, 2010 at 6:43 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
Bribes: Elisa Carrio said “The money from the bribes paid by the companies went directly to Nestor Kirchner”


According to international media “The former Argentine ambassador in Caracas, Eduardo Sadous, testified under oath that entrepreneurs interested in doing business with Venezuela must pay between 15 and 20% of bribes to officials of the Ministry of Planning in Argentina.”

Carrio explained that “The money from the bribes paid by the companies to sell to Venezuela went directly to Nestor Kirchner.”

I don't speak the language but this might say it all...

Jul 29, 2010 at 6:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
On October 28, 2007, his wife, the former Cristina Fernández, was elected to succeed him as President of Argentina.

Hmmmm, sounds legit...let's read on...

From Time Magazine...


Argentine customs agents then caught him with a suitcase stuffed with $800,000 in cash. Antonini was allowed to return to the U.S. — but it seemed the entire hemisphere wanted to know if he'd been carrying the money for Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez as some sort of bribe for the Argentine government.

Today, however, it's Duran whose legal skin that needs saving. Last December he and four other men, three Venezuelans and an Uruguayan, were charged in Miami with failing to register as foreign government agents. U.S. prosecutors say the men, at the behest of "high-level" Venezuelan government officials, cajoled and even threatened Antonini to keep mum about the real purpose of all that cash: an illegal contribution from Venezuela to the presidential campaign of then Argentine Senator and First Lady Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, a Chavez ally.
Jul 29, 2010 at 7:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
Yes DB, i frankly think it's disgusting as well.
Jul 29, 2010 at 7:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
show me a latin president from the last 40 years that isn't corrupt...your response was expected and typical...instead of dealing with the facts about bush, you run the other direction and attempt to discredit the source...thereby avoiding the entire point of the story...you are part and parcel of the war-mongering, neo-con, fascist, terror-fearing minority that constantly pushes for war...that is the point of this story...

hey z...answer a question...do you think we should bomb iran and north korea...
Jul 29, 2010 at 7:23 PM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
So someone you know to be corrupt leads you to this conclusion..."i have absolutely no doubt kirchner is telling the truth".

Why not just post this...

Jul 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
Jul 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
To answer your question...


If the revolution fails, yes, bomb bomb bomb...bomb Iran into the dustbin of history.
Jul 29, 2010 at 7:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
"If the revolution fails, yes, bomb bomb bomb...bomb Iran into the dustbin of history."

Confirmed! You are offically authorized to formally sing along to THIS tune:

Jul 29, 2010 at 8:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterRecoverylessRecovery
More like this one but thanks...

Jul 29, 2010 at 8:43 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
You mean like THIS one? And you're welcome.

Jul 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterRecoverylessRecovery
It's all about accountability and trust.
Jul 30, 2010 at 1:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
"It's all about accountability and trust."

I thought it was all about comfort & fit.
Aug 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterRecoverylessRecovery
If Fox Fraudcasting is the Television Voice for the American Corporate-Sponsored Taliban, Glenn Beck is Mullah Omar
Aug 1, 2010 at 10:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterKen
Glenn Beck brings COMFORT to MILLIONS of middle-aged and elderly white conservative Christian Americans. Its MUCH easier for him and his buddies at GOLDLINE to pick their pockets that way.;

Aug 2, 2010 at 3:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterRecoverylessRecovery
Zbigniew Brzezinski (top policy advisor to numerous administrations) says that we are entering the “technetronic era”, which threatens democracy, and “…involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled and directed society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite whose claim to political power would rest on allegedly superior scientific knowhow. Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control. … Persisting social crisis, the emergence of a charismatic personality, and the exploitation of mass media to obtain public confidence would be the steppingstones in the piecemeal transformation of the United States into a highly controlled society.” –Zbigniew Brzezinski, “Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era” (page 97).

“I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” –U.S. President Thomas Jefferson

Aug 2, 2010 at 9:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterKen
We are being lies to about the economy.

Something is seriously wrong with the economic figures they are releasing for the ten year old war in Afghanistan and the three month old war in Libya and the problem is that the USA claims to be spending a whopping $2bn a week on just the Afgan war and the UK government is claiming that the total cost of the three month old Libya war including the daily use of cruise missile is a mere £250m

I’m not pretending to be a military expert but what I do know is the engines from fighter jets need a complete strip down and rebuild after every thirty hours or so of flight time and the cost of each engines rebuild comes in at about £500,000 each.

Clearly someone is telling major lies here and our economies can not maintain a permanent war time environment and history shows us that the Russian empire went into meltdown due to the cost of just fighting the war in Afghanistan and the Russians were no fools judging by the economic miracle since the brake up of the old Soviet Union.
Jun 23, 2011 at 10:27 AM | Unregistered Commenterpete smith

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