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Friday
Oct292010

Bill Gross: "Bernanke Is Charles Ponzi"

Bernanke arriving at Bilderberg...

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Gross is honest about Bernanke but then disavows any connection to natural intelligence with his statement that QE2 will work.  Sorry Bill, but it won't.  I wrote last week that QE is...

  • Quantitative easing is little more than dollar-destroying, nano-crapmagic money printing.
  • Andy Xie says "If you print a trillion, I'll print a trillion," as he dances on Bernanke's Keynesian corpse, through the fields of Tokyo.
  • And...

Fellow Keynesian warlord Joseph Stiglitz is screaming for Bernanke to stop the madness, while his buddy Paul Krugman wants so much more QE it will make your corneas bleed and your soul take a vacation.

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More commentary below...

Read the truth and insanity of PIMCO's Bill Gross.

Excerpt from Run Turkey Run

There’s another important day next week and it rather coincidentally occurs on Wednesday – the day after Election Day – when either the Donkeys or the Elephants will be celebrating a return to power and the continuation of partisan bickering no matter who is in charge. Wednesday is the day when the Fed will announce a renewed commitment to Quantitative Easing – a polite form disguise for “writing checks.” The market will be interested in the amount (perhaps as much as an initial $500 billion) as well as the targeted objective (perhaps a muddied version of “2% inflation or bust!”). The announcement, however, has been well telegraphed and the market’s reaction is likely to be subdued. More important will be the answer to the long-term question of “will it work?” and perhaps its associated twin “will it create a bond market bubble?”

The Fed’s second round of QE, therefore, more closely resembles an attempted hypodermic straight to the economy’s heart than its mood elevator counterpart of 2009. If QEII cannot reflate capital markets, if it can’t produce 2% inflation and an assumed reduction of unemployment rates back towards historical levels, then it will be a long, painful slog back to prosperity. Perhaps, as a vocal contingent suggests, our paper-based foundation of wealth deserves to be buried, making a fresh start from admittedly lower levels. The Fed, on Wednesday, however, will decide that it is better to keep the patient on life support with an adrenaline injection and a following morphine drip than to risk its demise and ultimate rebirth in another form.

We at PIMCO join with Ben Bernanke in this diagnosis, but we will tell you, as perhaps he cannot, that the outcome is by no means certain. We are, as even some Fed Governors now publically admit, in a “liquidity trap,” where interest rates or trillions in QEII asset purchases may not stimulate borrowing or lending because consumer demand is just not there. Escaping from a liquidity trap may be impossible, much like light trapped in a black hole. Just ask Japan.

Ben Bernanke, however, will try – it is, to be honest, all he can do. He can’t raise or lower taxes, he can’t direct a fiscal thrust of infrastructure spending, he can’t change our educational system, he can’t force the Chinese to revalue their currency – it is all he can do, and as he proceeds, the dual questions of “will it work” and “will it create a bond market bubble” will be answered. We at PIMCO are not sure.

Check writing in the trillions is not a bondholder’s friend; it is in fact inflationary, and, if truth be told, somewhat of a Ponzi scheme. Public debt, actually, has always had a Ponzi-like characteristic. Granted, the U.S. has, at times, paid down its national debt, but there was always the assumption that as long as creditors could be found to roll over existing loans – and buy new ones – the game could keep going forever. Sovereign countries have always implicitly acknowledged that the existing debt would never be paid off because they would “grow” their way out of the apparent predicament, allowing future’s prosperity to continually pay for today’s finance.

Now, however, with growth in doubt, it seems that the Fed has taken Charles Ponzi one step further. Instead of simply paying for maturing debt with receipts from financial sector creditors – banks, insurance companies, surplus reserve nations and investment managers, to name the most significant – the Fed has joined the party itself. Rather than orchestrating the game from on high, it has jumped into the pond with the other swimmers. One and one-half trillion in checks were written in 2009, and trillions more lie ahead.

The Fed, in effect, is telling the markets not to worry about our fiscal deficits, it will be the buyer of first and perhaps last resort. There is no need – as with Charles Ponzi – to find an increasing amount of future gullibles, they will just write the check themselves. I ask you: Has there ever been a Ponzi scheme so brazen? There has not. This one is so unique that it requires a new name. I call it a Sammy scheme, in honor of Uncle Sam and the politicians (as well as its citizens) who have brought us to this critical moment in time. It is not a Bernanke scheme, because this is his only alternative and he shares no responsibility for its origin. It is a Sammy scheme – you and I, and the politicians that we elect every two years – deserve all the blame.

Continue reading...

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DB here.

More detail from Andy Xie - former Chief Economist for Morgan Stanley.

QE: The Numberless Oblivion by Andy Xie

Enough is never enough for Paul Krugman – and other instances of behavior leading the world toward high inflation and political instability.

  • "The stimulus has failed.  How should one interpret the result?  If you were Paul Krugman, you would say it wasn't enough. 
  • "Of course, if 20 percent of GDP in budget deficit and another round of QE still don't work, he would say not enough again.  You can never prove Krugman wrong.  Such a smart fellow."

I love those last 2 lines from Xie.  Let's look at why QE will fail.

It's pretty simple - it's too small, and we're stuck in a liquidity trap.  QE1 was $1.75 trillion and yet failed like the miserable, slobbering, hyperventilating, sleestack of Satan's 2nd spawn, spit out of Volcker's colon during a difficult moment on the DC belltway.

The same will happen with QE2, only worse.

There is no way in Bernanke's Tokyo nightmare that $2 trillion of printing will slow a $50 trillion deleveraging push.  Rates are already astronomically low, and there is no refinancing boom.  Too many homeowners are underwater and can't pass the appraisal-equity game in order to get one of those new lower rates.  And the ones who could qualify, have already refinanced.  Make no mistake, this is a Brian Sack gift to the equity markets and the banks, pension funds, and others who already own treasuries. 

It will hurt the Dollar, and won't even make a dent in the deleveraging.  Better to give up on extend, pretend, and just take it in the aft end, at least for awhile.  It's gonna be a long slog. 

 

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Reader Comments (18)

http://www.pimco.com/Pages/RunTurkeyRun.aspx

complete bill gross letter...
Oct 29, 2010 at 12:53 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Don't miss Alex Jones bull-horning Bilderberg. Here's a direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIV7r7JdUr0
Oct 29, 2010 at 1:30 AM | Registered CommenterDr. Pitchfork
Here's Alex Jones bull-horning Bernanke. http://dailybail.com/slideshows/bilderberg-conference-2010/5606583

Bernanke arriving at Bilderberg. Short, hilarious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfgGm2QEzyQ
Oct 29, 2010 at 1:33 AM | Registered CommenterDr. Pitchfork
pitchfork..thanks for that short bernanke one...that was awesome...i have now added it to page #2 of the viewers guide...

http://dailybail.com/slideshows/bilderberg-conference-2010/5604528
Oct 29, 2010 at 1:53 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
now i've wasted another 45 minutes watching bilderberg clips...
Oct 29, 2010 at 2:13 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
Fellow Keynesian warlord Joseph Stiglitz is screaming for Bernanke to stop the madness, while his buddy Paul Krugman wants so much more QE it will make your corneas bleed and your soul go on vacation.
Oct 29, 2010 at 2:45 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
As Steve requested, moved to new thread. Been busy all day, and wow, quite a discussion.

Cheyenne,

Good to see you jumped on four acres, that bit of land can more than take care of a family and provide plenty of learning experiences for children if you have any and plan your resources carefully.

Dr. P.

More than journalists travel in herds. For generations the herds did not mind minor predation, such was the natural order of things. But now I am afraid the sheep may have found their way into a box canyon and the predators are massing at the entrance seeking fresh meat.

It has been a long stalk to get them where they want them...

Start reading any good books lately?...

Gobie,

Good to see you work in a movie reference.


As to this post, Krugman is a completely captured moron.
Oct 29, 2010 at 3:33 AM | Unregistered CommenterS. Gompers
thanks gomp..i think everyone else is asleep...which makes sense since it's 4 am...

i switched the colors of the site for Halloween...i don't mind the orange links but it makes the site look like candy...
Oct 29, 2010 at 4:03 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/40207-when-the-big-banks-come-crawling-back-screw-em-talking-points-for-the-anti-bank-bailout-revolution

david icke picked up my long post from yesterday...he's picked up several of our storeis recently...and he brings a lot of visitors...any of you ever read his site...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines
Oct 29, 2010 at 5:33 AM | Registered CommenterDailyBail
That pic of 'Nanke in the black sedan was supposedly taken outside the Bilderberg meeting in Va., by Alex and Co., not the most recent meeting in Sitges, but the prior.

The Truth will set readers of the DB free. Keep up the veil burning and secret curtain yanking.
http://letthemfail.us/archives/6334

-Wil
Oct 29, 2010 at 9:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterWil Martindale
Pledge your support to challenge Paul Krugman to debate an Austrian economist--details here:

http://consultingbyrpm.com/check-out-the-murphy-krugman-debate
Oct 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterKrugman going down in flames
More theater from Obama today with a dramatized thwarted terrorist attack, does he have no shame. I don’t know if this will give the demoncrats a bump in the election but it does show how far Obama will go to destroy this country with his policies. Shame on you Barry Soetoro.
Oct 29, 2010 at 7:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
As bad as Bush and Obama and other politicians have been, Bernanke is definitely the villain of this country's century thus far. He is leading us to financial ruin by bailing out rich businesses and preventing normal people from succeeding. Only the people that help create jobs by creating businesses (see mine at http://tagmyphone.com/ ) are preventing this country from total economic catastrophe. The cure for financial crisis is jobs, not bailouts.
Oct 29, 2010 at 9:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterWilliam Davidson
Bernanke and Krugman need to be put in a 3-man CELL WITH 'BUBBA' for the next 5yrs.! Two THUGS IN A POD!
Oct 30, 2010 at 1:02 AM | Unregistered CommenterJosephConrad
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/liamhalligan/8098834/Mervyn-King-makes-a-stand-for-reform-as-banks-seem-intent-on-forgetting.html

King knows this only too well. That's why he wants a return of the "Glass-Steagall" split between commercial banks (that take deposits) and investment banks (that take big risks). The firewall was removed in the US in 1999 after a long campaign by Wall Street and following similar City reforms.

Once this divide was gone, investment bankers could use taxpayer-backed deposits to take ultra-risky bets, knowing they'd be rescued if their bets backfired. No single act did more to destabilise our financial system and turn "sub-prime" from a banking crisis into a fiscal crisis too. The bail-outs happened precisely because ordinary firms' and households' deposits were at stake when the investment banks went down. No wonder the US and UK, the two spiritual homes of "universal banking", have huge budget deficits.

If we once again separate commercial banks safeguarded by government from lightly regulated investment banks, the latter could then stand or fall on their own merits, their failure posing no threat either to core banking or the public finances. The banking system would be safer and the "too big to fail" issue solved.
Oct 30, 2010 at 8:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterZ
How can people who are supposed to be so smart keep repeating the same mistakes. The dollar is undergoing what happened to the mark.
Excerpt from How Money Dies by Adam Fersuson Nightmare of Wiemar Collapse.

"It was natural that a people in the grip of raging inflation should look about for someone to blame. They picked upon other classes, other races, other political parties, other nations. In blaming the greed of tourists, or the peasants, or the wage demands of labour, or the selfishness of the industrialists and profiteers, or the sharpness of the Jews, or the speculators making fortunes in the money markets, they were in large measure still blaming not the disease but the symptoms.

It was significant enough that union, demands were still for higher wages to meet rising prices rather than, before all else, stable prices and a stable currency. A few of the financially sophisticated could be heard blaming the government, and the Finance Minister in particular, but a typical view was that prices went up because the foreign exchange went up, that the exchange rate went up because of speculation on the Stock Exchange, and that this was obviously the fault of the Jews. Although the price of the dollar was a matter for almost universal discussion, it still appeared to most Germans that the dollar was going up, not that the mark was falling; that the price of food and clothing was being forcibly increased daily, not that the value of money was permanently sinking as the flood of paper marks diluted the purchasing power of the number already in circulation."

This is exactually what is happening in America now. This publication should be required reading for all. Money printing must cease.
Oct 31, 2010 at 10:34 PM | Unregistered Commentergol4
Why do Americans fear terrorism. More terror then coming from the Fed isn't possible.
Nov 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM | Unregistered Commenterholocaust gaza

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