A Message To The Oakland Police: "You Have No Power!"

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[DailyBail]

Hillary Clinton:‘No Evidence’ DOJ Sought Required License to Send Guns to Mexico in ‘Fast and Furious

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/hillary-clinton-no-evidence-doj-sought-required-license-send-guns-mexico-fast-and

[DailyBail]

Liberate Oakland, Shut Down the 1%

GENERAL STRIKE & MASS DAY OF ACTION

http://www.occupyoakland.org/2011/10/general-strike-mass-day-of-action/

[DailyBail]

Oakland mayor under siege from all sides

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19219379

[DailyBail]

Michele Bachmann slammed by right-wing organization demanding GOPer pull out of presidential race

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/michele-bachmann-slammed-right-wing-organization-demanding-goper-pull-presidential-race-article-1.96863

[chunga]

That was a powerful video.

[DailyBail]

Silence on human rights...the price Europe must pay for China's billions

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054929/EU-debt-deal-China-buys-Europes-silence-human-rights.html#ixzz1cNSFax9c

[DailyBail]

Yes it was Chunga. By the way, sorry I missed the Babcock radio show. I took some time away this weekend.

[chunga]

Understood DB. Never enough time in the day. He didn't call in. Maybe this Saturday - I'll keep you posted.

Babcock is a busy guy...lol. He got this done already and it's only Monday.

MERS Take One On The Chin (10/31/11)

http://www.foreclosurehamlet.org/profiles/blogs/mers-take-one-on-the-chin-10-31-11

[Bob]

David Iche unmistakable voice . Love that guy. As David would say "get off your knees"

[marie lucio]

Again. Notice the difference the way the police treated the tea party as opposed to the occupy people. We treated them with respect and they in return treated the tea party people with respect. Protesting is one thing. But, you cannot OCCUPY for an indefinite amount of time, all the while causing chaos, trashing the place and causing problems for the locals who live there and are trying to work and go about their lives in peace. These people claim that all they want is fairness and peace. Uh-huh.

[mick]

Great perspective !

[Tom]

Hey Marie Lucio, use that energy you seem to have from being pissed off at the protesters and direct it toward the bankers/politicians who should be in jail for massive, massive fraud and usury and you won't have any protesters to get in your way.

See where I'm going?

And really, defending spineless cops who hit a Vet point blank while backtracking to get behind other cops before he tosses a canister into civilians trying to aid said Vet, makes you almost as low as they are.

[Vernon Clayson]

Scott Olsen chose the wrong side in this affair. Being a veteran gives him no dispensation from law and order or more privilege than anyone else in the mob. I'm betting real Marines, those with respect for America and one another feel little pity or kinship with this boob. He was one veteran in a mob, chances are many, if not a majority, of the police officers involved are veterans.

[marie lucio]

Nice try Tom. But its not working. Vernon is right. Scott chose the wrong side to back. I feel bad for him and dont approve of any kind of violence towards anyone, but you cannot willfully disrupt and then disobey the law! I am not pissed off at these protesters, I feel badly for them mainly because they are being used. They are useful idiots. Most of them have no idea why they are there. As for the bankers, politicians etc. Absolutely, they have blame to share. But lets not forget how most of this started. The Dems had control for a long time and twisted the arms of the banks to do business with people who could never pay back the money loaned. Threatening them with racism and trying to make them look like something they are not. Not fair, Tom. At least look at all sides, dont call people names that you dont agree with and give us the benefit you seem so happy to give the left. Were not bad guys. Just tired of all the corruption and the loss of our income that we work so hard for, just to be given to those who have no desire to WORK for the American dream. All that being said, I wish you well.

[DailyBail]

marie wrote:

but you cannot willfully disrupt and then disobey the law!

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you don't understand the oakland protests very well...have you watched the videos...olsen was not throwing rocks...he was standing there peacefully...and as we have pointed out, the protesters had a 1st amendment right to peaceful assembly...affirmed by the constitution and reaffirmed by a federal judge in cleveland just 2 weeks ago...

[DailyBail]

what law did he violate?

[Tom]

"The Dems had control for a long time and twisted the arms of the banks to do business with people who could never pay back the money loaned."

Twisted the arms of the banks...sometimes I don't believe how thoroughly clueless people are but it explains how these thieves get away with what they do. Marie, watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5z3wbKbiFU

"At least look at all sides, dont call people names that you dont agree with and give us the benefit you seem so happy to give the left."

One day Marie, you may or may not realize what the left/right, divide and conquer strategy was meant to do to not only the American people but to people, period.

In the meantime, I'll give you a plain explanation of the US Gov. for example:

On an off-day, any sports team may schedule a practice. one of the things they do is divide the team in two and give one side red shirts and the other blue. They practice as if the are playing an opponent but at the end of the day they get of the playing surface as the same team.

That's politics.

Dems/Repubs, red/blue, left/right, same stuff different pile.

When and only when Americans get this, they will then be able to stand united and not be played against each other.

As for those of you just trying to get to work and work hard for a living but have to deal with protesters, try to realize
those people causing a fuss, they're doing so because they don't have a job to go to and only if it happens to you will you understand that you may one day be out there yelling too.

[Miguel Grande]

This is a tactic not only taught by the Israeli trainers but it is ingrained into millions of Amerikan youth. In the video game series called "Call of Duty", when an opponent is injured, its called "last chance", to finish off the wounded, you toss a flash bang grenade.

In one game called "Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2", the player is forced to participate in a Columbine style mass murder in an airport. You are forced to murder mass quantities of innocent civilians.We have an entire generation now trained to kill without any type of mercy at all. If you look at the credits of these games, the Pentagon and military intelligence are heavily involved in the storyline.

In Call of Duty-Black OPS, they openly admit that they murdered Kennedy and name the killers, a group of international drug runners and assassins, CIA code named Operation 40. Former head of the CIA, Porter Goss, ran that operation. Be forewarned, "Call of Duty-Modern Warfare 3 is to be released on 11-8-11. I'm sure it will have some crazy shit in it.

I've often wondered why these games are not only allowed but sponsored by our our military. I'll bet this cop and most others are simply "gamers" who have been trained to kill without compunction or mercy via video games.

99%
TOO BIG TO FAIL!!

[The voice of reason]

My thanks to Marie for injecting some rational, factual thought into this discussion. As to Daily Bail's question, "what law did he break", I truly hope you are not the actual and real "Daily Bail" voice that I have been reading since you started! FYI, a demonstration becomes unlawful when the police ask for a demonstration to remove themselves from a specific area after a reasonable amount of time. When the participants in the demonstration refuse, as did Scott and many others, that is the law they break. Like it or not, the police force is the designated, recognized legal authority and in such circumstances have a job to perform. They are not simply the tool of any one faction, (1% or 99%), but rather the recognized authority that has been established for the mutual protection of all. The problem seems to surface when protestors, paid or otherwise, lose sight of the fact that their perspective on any given issue may or may not be that of everyone they are affecting by their disruptive actions. The unintended consequences are never being given a second thought! There is no respect for others, beyond those who share their momentary views. As Marie pointed out, there is a mountain of difference between what the Occupy protestors are doing and how they are behaving and the Tea Party that acted lawfully, respectfully and with a much more specific purpose.

Truly, we as common citizens, whether rich or middle class, can agree that corruption on main street, wall street or in our federal or local government should not be tolerated and that there needs to be a much better system of accountability for those who are guilty! From my perspective, our government is as equally culpable as wall street and assets should be seized and stiff prison terms given for these criminals as well. But I digress . . .and the issue here is lawful and respectful assembly for the purpose of calling attention to an entire cauldron of issues that each of these demonstrators have. Anti Semite hate fills the air as does stupidity and union organizing, all mixed together with sincere, honest, concerned students and everyday people who share many of the concerns that ALL Americans have, (including many of the 1%)!

This kind of movement can cause a lot of damage as an unintended, (or is it intended?), consequence! Many innocent, hard working, dedicated people can be irreparably hurt as a result. Is this the way to make a point? If so, then I am afraid I cannot support such a movement! Final thought, be responsible, lawful and respectful if you want unanimous support. Do not be hijacked by political movements like the union organizers or either political party! Do what is right!

[marie lucio]

I could not have come close to saying it as well as you did "Voice of Reason".
By the way Daily Bail, William Black? Isnt he on the same page as Michael Moore? I dont know if I can take what he says seriously. He might be an intelligent man, but that doesnt mean you have a whole lot of common sense. And twisting things to make your argument work DOESNT work.
I get it about the Dems and the Repubs. I dont care for either of them. I consider myself a conservative, a Tea Party member and yes I believe in God. (Not cool I know, but you have to be true to yourself). I get that politicians are in it for themselves. Im not naive, but hope that we (left and right) can come together and make this country work. Unfortunately, I do not believe any of the protesters have any concept of what they are protesting about.
Jobs? Just look at this administration (which they support). Its killing jobs. Like Herman Cain said "go over and protest in front of the White House if your upset about not having jobs". But no, that would be counter-productive wouldnt it? This administration supports the protesting. (Weird, but the same protesters are also supported by Hamas, Teheran, the Nazi Party etc. You get the point). I may not have the educational background you have, but I represent the real America. The middle class, who has worked all my life, built my own business and became successful. (All by my little self, with help from no one) Guess what? After all the hard work, years of success, my business went under. (This happened right around the the middle of 2009. People were getting scared about what they were seeing and stopped spending). Bills are hard to pay, taxes are high, and I do not see a rosy future for anyone. Bad times are coming, because of criminal politicians, greedy people (that goes for corporate and welfare people. All greedy. Trying to get something for nothing).
You can live in your world. But out here in the real world its painful. But I would never do what these people are doing. I have too much respect for myself and others.

[Tom]

"Anti Semite hate fills the air ..."

I'll ask you the question since you brought this up.

Why do you suppose that is?

[marie lucio]

Anti-semite hatred fills the air? What are you talking about now Tom? Are you insinuating that tea party people or conservatives are anti semite? This is getting weird. Now, the protesters. Theres a group that is going to feast on that bone. After all, ALL those evil bankers are Jewish arent they? Honestly, you can do better than this. The Jews have been the scapegoat for thousands of years and always will be. Some of the bankers are Jewish, some are German, some are who knows what. Your just going down the age old road. Jews are always out to get you and your money. Oye.

[Alberto]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[Howard T. Lewis III]

These demonstrations are about confronting crimes. Eric Holder, Jr's. only contact with the SEC is passing X-rated pictures back and forth between moments of self-abuse. This problem is making any and all germaine comments by vernon clayson, marie lucio and the dolt calling themselves the 'voice of reason' inoperative and vain. Such is not the stuff of the Daily Bail. Has satanism sunk its venom dripping talons into the beleagured senses of our fearless site master in a moment of his fatigue and exhaustion? We are here to help.

See Miguel Grande's comment above. THIS is worthy material. It historically addresses the Bush41 career, which grew in the shadows like a fungus or staph infection until it manifested itself in 9-11, the GOM oil well blow-out disaster, the HAARP attacks on the U.S., and the market deregulation and SEC corruption allowing the pigs to run free. A book by Daniel Hopsicker called 'Barry and the Boys' features a photo of 'Operation40' gathered at a night club in Mexico City back in 1958. Featured in this photo are Porter Goss, Barry Seal, Frank Sturgis, Felix Rodriguez, Frank Barnard, and a host of other killers and drug and gun runners, some of whom were shooters at the JFK assassination and de Gaulle assassination attempts. 'Fast and Furious' began in 1952 when Bush41 slithered into the White house behind his daddy's employee, veep Richard Milhouse Nixon. The end beneficiary to this economic and murderous carnage is Britannia. The Jolly Roger flag has flown for the benefit of the English Crown since 1713 when William of Orange was kicked off the throne by a pack of invading Germans. Bush41&43 and the Skull and Bones society carry on this tradition and service to this day. You sons of bitches voted for them . Traditional satanic ritual sacrifices in dark rooms and the lot. There is a mess to clean up. Most jews are not Semites. That mistake of calling all jews 'Semites' causes another BIG mess.
All mothers tell their children two BIG lies. That 'you are perfect', and that 'you are safe'. If you are lucky like me, your father tells your older cousins to teach you how to play football. With this honor, the realization soon comes that on the football field, you are neither perfect nor safe. You can keep crying and run back home to mommy or the TV set, or you can PLAY BALL. C'est la vie. I'll bet you guys did not even know that the recent French government is so full of itself that they did not notice the radioactive groundwater contamination infiltrating the Champagne region. Verbosity and browbeating by pinheads is not worth the time. Mumm's is. The United States Constitutional government and banking system is and the markets system is.

[Vernon Clayson]

Howard T. Lewis III speaks of everything except the subject, i.e., the unlawful conduct of the so-called occupiers. He almost covers the world's written history with his odd comments, what is this style, the new way to say something without making any sense, which occupy site are you at, Howard III?

[Tom]

"Anti-semite hatred fills the air? What are you talking about now Tom? "

It was a quote taken from "voice of reason", Marie.

I was asking him/her what they meant.

[Howard T. Lewis III]

Standing up, in public, in a group to protest justice department inaction is a right guaranteed by the same Constitution that protects the American citizens from molestation by simpering fools like you, Vernon Clayson. If molestation and devil's advocacy are your only tricks, there are a bunch of guys in ramass prison that could use an extra chuckle or two. You bore me. Your kind and the pack of goons that showed up today on this comment page have little in the way of positive input to add, and even less to hint at. Anal sex is easily found in prison. One way or the other. Try there.

[marie lucio]

My apologizes Tom. I did not catch that part of "Voice of Reasons" comments.
I wasnt sure whether to bother to speak to the rantings of Mr. Lewis or not. Cant help myself, I must. Mr. Lewis, I dont think I have come across a person so filled with rage and hatred (not to mention all the random comments) in a long time. If all that the protesters were trying to do was make a point about their discontent, that would be one thing. I would support them. But, that is not the case. Again, as I said in the beginning, they dont seem to know what they are protesting. Even that is fine, if thats all they have to do. However, the way they are going about it is wrong. Violence is always wrong. They are now turning on each other. Rapes, robberies, beatings etc. These are not your average Americans protesting. These are young malcontents with nothing better to do than make alot of noise and hang out while making life for others around them miserable. This is not a grass roots group. This was highly organized by people who wish to see the system collapse and will turn it into something vile. A place you would not want to live in.
I wish no harm to anyone (especially these young people because they are being used) but again, respect others while you are protesting and others will respect you. Mr. Clayson and voice of reason have been gentlemen in their responses. Perhaps if you did the same Mr. Lewis, we would have more respect for your responses (I know. You dont care). You obviously have some intelligence, perhaps you could use your mind to search out the truth about what is really going on in this country.

[Howard T. Lewis III]

The economy is a stacked deck and the criminal dealers have been allowed to run loose. These people expressing opposition WITH rage are justified. Money seems like a wonderous thing until it becomes the crux of issues where behind the scenes theft determines who survives and who does not. A very few demonstrators are probably spoiled brats.

As I have stated in past writings, when each of us goes to sleep each night, a civil agreement is inferred where we do NOT take advantage of each other's respite for personal gain through theft, rape or murder, just as if each of us were awake and alert and able to defend ourselves. Deregulation of the banking and stock and bond trade industries has led to wholesale theft of peoples' livelihoods and savings by a magnitude never seen in this country. Every bit of it jail-house sucker-punching.

Previous prosecutions for this behavior from 1988 to 1993 imprisoned over 1,000 banksters for the SAME CRIMES WE SEE TODAY. Holder, Jr. and the SEC have prosecuted NOBODY. These victims are real people with feelings, families and aspirations as noble as anybody's. Because I am highly educated and I like Mumm's champagne and dungeoness crab and Triumph TR-2As does NOT mean I can use my education to defraud, loot, steal, blow up, shoot, bludgeon, garrot, stab, fillet......or otherwise sin against my fellow man for my own personal comfort. I, as a civilized being, cut a deal with my neighbor and we go from there. I am quite civilized, until I am attacked by some idiot stranger who feels entitled to injure me or my family or steal our stuff.

But yes, I have put two attackers in the hospital and subdued a few others after they made clear their intent. My big sin used to be parking tickets. I have changed my ways. I finally learned. I was bad. But I WILL seriously mess up the next fool who JUMPS UP ON ME.
Have patience with the demonstrators. They deserve justice more than you yet know. This whole mess is a diversion to allow the 9-11 perps to escape. They built the Fukushima plant and that inadequate oilwell in the GOM at the Maconda Prospect that blew up as they planned it to (The U.S. Senate signed off this event as "intentional".). They are still hitting us with HAARP weather and earthquake attacks. HAARP is probably above your head at this time.. See dutchsinse.com and 'Angels Don't Play These Harps'. and the History Channel's 'Weather Wars? That's Impossible', where they show you how the 'Global Warming' numbskulls are trying to scare everybody. That's another two pages to write someplace else.

[Vernon Clayson]

Howard T. Lewis III, is a bitter man, it must make Howard T. Lewis I and II proud, to say nothing of his mother and grandmother who surely remember when he was young and not filled with hate and an odd interest in perversions said to take place in prisons. The Constitution is always the fallback for liberals and other such rabble when it's convenient, I'm fairly familiar with the instrument but now I have to look up where it says that riotous mobs are free to assemble to complain about current justice department inaction. That's another point I missed, I have no idea what the inaction was but I'm fairly sure there were federal officials, likely the FBI and Dept. of Homeland Security flacks, observing the scene and making note of the local police department's actions and reaction, they watch the watchers, likely not a term Howard T. III is familiar with. Back to the Constitution and liberals falling back on it when it's convenient, they choose to stretch the tenets likely in semblance to the current president and the Congress who prefer to make rules and laws without reference to the Constitution - whim seems to be good enough for them. In a just world, Howard T. III, many if not most of the politicians in Washington would become familiar with the inside of prison walls.

[ETM]

"Again, as I said in the beginning, they dont seem to know what they are protesting. "


There's Clueless Marie again, out to prove the old adage that if a lie is repeated often enough, people will start to believe it.

Have you a been to a protest, Marie? You'd be shocked to find, I'm sure, actual SIGNS with WORDS explaining what the people are protesting.

Hell, a quick internet search will net you quite a few. I'll help you out:

http://la.guestofaguest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/enhanced-buzz-17943-1318017151-611.jpg
http://www.e-forwards.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Occupy-Wall-street-signs-best.jpeg
http://www.thefloridanewsjournal.com/sites/thefloridanewsjournal.com/files/imagecache/Article-Page/TFNJ-L110-3102-Occupy-UCF-Signs4a.jpg
http://www.lookingattheleft.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/101511_0000.jpg

[marie lucio]

Hate to break it to you EDUCATED boys with no sense, but Im not as clueless as you would like to paint me. Yes Ive been to protests and yes I know what HAARP is. And Agenda 21 and alot of other things you guys dont have a clue about. (By the way, you sure do believe in alot of conspiracy theories).
Having that sheepskin (no not the one you have in your wallet guys) does not make you smart. Just a repeater of your liberal professors. And ETM, the sites you sent were probably not the best you could have come up with. I would be willing to bet you good money that those people had no idea what their signs were about. When these people are interviewed, they dont even seem able to carry on an intelligent conversation. Stand here, hold this sign, collect your money later. They ramble on about some incoherent topic.
Gentlemen, you will find as you get older, that you will glean more from experiencing life than listening to your professors who live in a bubble.As for the Occupiers, they have now taken to moving into empty homes around Oakland, the mayor has reversed her decision to make the Occupiers vacate and has allowed them to return to the park. The city employees have been given the day off so that they can join in the protest. The police are in a state of confusion and chaos reigns. You should be very happy.

[Howard T. Lewis III]

Oakland is not a riot. This is not a war. Self-indulgence causing others pain and loss is satanism. The Bush clan, especially Bush43 and to a high degree, Bush41 have been actual ritual practicing satanists. Do a Yahoo! and google search on George W. Bush + Brownsville ,Texas, then SEARCH NSA general Michael Aquino. He was messed up in the Franklin cover-up business, the transfer of venereal disease to children at the presidio at the San Francisco military base as a Major in the U.S. Army, and suspected, questioned and testified against regarding other Franklin cover-up type matters of the time. He has been promoted to NSA general, in charge of ALL psychological warfare under the Bush administration. As a Major, he was also the high priest of the church of satan. As was his ambition.

All this 'satan' junk seems like B.S. for the kids, until you see and feel its evil, manifested as pain and sickness and loss. Then you know it is time to move on it. And you know not to stop until the job is done. Liberal? There are some things I do not tolerate at all. Any questions besides what is it that I do not tolerate? Do the above searches and then see Activist Post: Architects and Engineers Question...Comments section and read twice. America is under attack on several fronts and the invaders occupy the White House. And yes, I party with friends and tell funny jokes and watch kitty videos sometimes. Turn off your TV set and cut the cord.

[Howard T. Lewis III]

When one has not slept for days, thinking clearly and speech can become vey muddled if rushed. Patience. Tell the fellow he needs a little sleep then he can express himself properly. Agenda 21 is a pimple and a cat toy. And it has David Rockefeller's senile old SPIT all over it. Someone will throw it in the trash, hopefully. It is what being incredibly wealthy gives the freedom to do to others, with the 'best of intentions'.

Ickes is ABSOLUTELY correct. These police would be sacrificed in a riot. If they lose, they will feel being beaten for sacrificing themselves for a bunch of spoiled brats looting Wall Street who do NOT care for them at all. If they win, they will discover that the protestors were trying to save civil servants' pensions as well, including police department investment funds for their retirements and medical insurance and the rest. The police would lose in that case after knowing they beat up on strangers trying to save their future interests. The police would know they were falsely rushed into a situation that they did NOT understand and for a short time, believed in a false, lying, ideal or entity. Either way, the police with the clubs have no power. Whereas, with an open ear, there is no riot and there is no panic and there is no suffering, and the devil loses again! Then the police can turn on the corporate looters and fill the hold and be heroes for a year or twenty. or they get caught in graft of some kind. They should start with Eric Holder, Jr..get him in cuffs, today! 9-11 arrests, coming right up.

This will turn out nicely.

[liberaltraitors]

God, I wish we can start shooting these liberal faggots

[citizen]

God, I wish we can start shooting these liberal faggots
Nov 5, 2011 at 11:16 PM | liberaltraitors

I doubt God would share your point of view. Hate much?

Whats stopping you? Are the voices in your head refusing to disclose the location of your ammo? Lack of intestinal fortitude? Too drunk to aim?

[Howard T. Lewis III]

I am not a faggot or gay. And I am probably a better shot than you. 'Conservative/liberal' only exists as bait for an inane discussion. I do my homework and have helped put some very bad people in prison. It is not wise to name call and wave a gun, except in front of the mirror for a movie role. My friends and I used to play 'quick draw' on ground squirrels with our .22 rifles long ago. I am sorry I shot the little creatures, except for the fact that cattle sometimes stepped through their tunnel roofs and broke a leg, necessitating their being put down with primitive butchering by the ranchers that used us.

[James Smith]

A video this important should not have the background music set too high for the commentary. I am disappointed it was so poorly done.

Having said that, it is a serious subject and it is good someone thought to do it and post it. Here's what think the video is telling us:

It isn't as if any rational person still believes the USA is a free country. Think about it. No-warrant wire taps, indefinite detention of citizens without charges, approval of rendition of prisoners and torture, stop and frisk without probable cause, search and seizure without a warrant, no-knock entry, confiscation and destruction of cameras that might have been used to film police acting illegally, police brutality, police shootings that go without investigation, managed news, and the civil-rights destroying "Patriot" Act.

Acts of police behaving illegally, with shootings, tasers, and unwarranted violence now appear almost daily. Rarely are these offenses punished. Most often "an investigation" is claimed, but soon forgotten.

In addition, the USA, with 5% of the world population, has 25% of all of the prisoners in the world. That means the USA has the most people in prison of any nation in history. Even by percentage of residents incarcerated, not just sheer numbers. USA is # 1

Does any of that sound like a free country?